'67 Festival Pace Car

[Seattle Sam]

I remember a prior discussion on this board, that Charley's car was built on the production line with a four speed and L78 motor.

[Charley Lillard]

The car was built on a production line with L78 and 4 speed. I have no idea why they wanted to do it that way. The L78 protecto plate was in the glove box. The document I posted a pic of is one that Dan Young retyped because the orig one is hard to read. I will try to scan it and reduce it in size so it will fit on this site.

[92646]

The company I work for buys the dealership but they miss buying the pace car. I think somebody missed a great opportunity.
Mark Sheppard

[rpoz11]

Charley, was there a release date for the INDY timeline that interfered with the production line built cars?
At times I have felt that already assembled cars were pulled to fill these INDY orders. Mark C or someone else disputed my drivetrain at one time based upon timeline "current knowledge" information; so as to refer to the Dan Young Track Car, this car in particular was another RPO designation vs an actual assembly line 'followed car' in respects to the INDY order required; I mean The Dan Young Car wasnt followed from the point of origin on the order sheets to the assembly line to the finished/delivered car....it was a car already completed and retrofitted to fulfill the INDY order?????
Thoughts.....

[rpoz11]

Also, If I recall ...the 3:07.1 gear ratio was intended for the 4-speed, and the 3:08.1 was intended for the automatic?
Isnt this an understood knowledge of the build combinations in our first years?

[70 copo]

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Charley, was there a release date for the INDY timeline that interfered with the production line built cars?
At times I have felt that already assembled cars were pulled to fill these INDY orders. Mark C or someone else disputed my drivetrain at one time based upon timeline "current knowledge" information; so as to refer to the Dan Young Track Car, this car in particular was another RPO designation vs an actual assembly line 'followed car' in respects to the INDY order required; I mean The Dan Young Car wasnt followed from the point of origin on the order sheets to the assembly line to the finished/delivered car....it was a car already completed and retrofitted to fulfill the INDY order?????
Thoughts.....

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The 2 Actual IPC's for '67 were modified by Chevrolet after final assembly by Central Engineering. The cars were then shipped out to the zone to join the other IPC's at the track. Charlie has all the info and documents.... on #92.

Good question to ask over at www.camaropacecars.com

Phil

[Chevy454]

Why oh why would you ditch the L78 4-speed combo in favor of an L34/35 auto combo? If the low-horse 396 can pull the 3.08 gears I would reckon the L-78 could get it done as well??

[budnate]

I recall reading a qoute years ago about the 67 pacers and after test driving them a little GM was afraid the driver may dump the dizzy blond and AJ out the back with the L-78 and stick...I have a very cool article on Charleys car from the Camaro club magazine...very cool read..I have it somewhere but cant find it , they also have a article of a black 69 COPO in it getting a frame off... the first i had ever read of them..

[rpoz11]

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Charley, was there a release date for the INDY timeline that interfered with the production line built cars?
At times I have felt that already assembled cars were pulled to fill these INDY orders. Mark C or someone else disputed my drivetrain at one time based upon timeline "current knowledge" information; so as to refer to the Dan Young Track Car, this car in particular was another RPO designation vs an actual assembly line 'followed car' in respects to the INDY order required; I mean The Dan Young Car wasnt followed from the point of origin on the order sheets to the assembly line to the finished/delivered car....it was a car already completed and retrofitted to fulfill the INDY order?????
Thoughts.....

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I was reading what I wrote here, and I must assume that your car had the 0-1 code as a L78 Muncie? during that engine transition?
One can always theorize anything can happen at the plants, but I would expect the owner of the system could redirect anything at any time if there was a need to do so......

[Charley Lillard]

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