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Do you know- or do you have any idea just how hard it is currently to restore a '70 [/ QUOTE ] As someone who is trying to locate some pieces for my car I would have to agree 100% with this statement. Parts for these cars have sky-rocketed in the last few years. ![]()
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Restoring a '70 is far more costly than restoring a '67-'69 by a long shot.I did my '70 3-4 yrs. back and I couldn't get all the parts I needed.Just did my '69 this year and really...all it takes is $$$ to get it done.
Speaking of vintage Trans-Am cars,just saw them run at the Monterey Historics two weekends ago and it's always great to see 'em run.Jim Hall was there with all seven Chaparral's including the 2J "vacuum car" and of course,the #1 Chaparral Camaro won the T-A race.Also watched them run at the Wine Country Classics in Sonoma. Go to www.historictransam.com to see the Big Boys run again! Enjoy, John 1969 X-77 (Millenium Yellow/Blk stripes) 1970 RS Z/28 (Hugger Orange/Blk stripes) 1970 Chevelle SS-454 (Cranberry Red/Blk stripes) 1970 El Camino SS-454 (Cranberry Red/Blk stripes)
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1967 Buick Skylark GS400 Funny Car "Ingenue"...World's only Buick-powered Buick Funny Car/Aug '10 HRM featured car '69 Z/28 Yellow/Aug '07 CHP cover car '70 Z/28 R/S Orange/Jan '08 CHP featured car '70 Chevelle SS454 LS-5 Red/Jan '11 CHP cover car |
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I'd have to disagree with the statement that GM dumped a pile of money into the 1970 season.
Chevy was only in the T/A game a little bit more than half-heartedly at the best of times from what I've read, and GM's dominance was a mostly 1968-9 affair, and almost entirely due to the drivers and crew, and not from any factory offerings. Factory backing from GM was poor in comparison to ALL the other manufacturer's, and by the end of 1969, after having given up its winning team, was all over but the crying. Its too bad, because the 1970 Camaro would have been a much better car to work with than the first gens, and the Trans am series was perhaps the best showcase for high performance cars to be sold at the dealerships had the factories kept the heat on.
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Citrus,
With Penske going to AMC in '70,Jim Hall was just spread too thin to campaign the T/A cars and his Can-Am cars which he was heavily involved with.He really didn't want anything to do with the Camaro's and that is really a shame. Certainly,Roger & Mark has lots of input with the 2nd. gen cars and in the right hands,(Penske)would have surely been the 1970 champion...in my mind at least!
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1967 Buick Skylark GS400 Funny Car "Ingenue"...World's only Buick-powered Buick Funny Car/Aug '10 HRM featured car '69 Z/28 Yellow/Aug '07 CHP cover car '70 Z/28 R/S Orange/Jan '08 CHP featured car '70 Chevelle SS454 LS-5 Red/Jan '11 CHP cover car |
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John,
That makes perfect sense to me. I always thought if Roger and Mark had been kept by GM (which is what should have happened)It would have been a different story, not that Hall wasn't capable, but as you state his interests were not in T/Am.
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To get back to the subject though, have we arrived at any concensus on the values?..are good restorations in the 30-40k range?.. also still waiting for my car to come back from bodyshop too..what is it with bodyshops and dragging their heels anyhow????
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i own a collision repair shop and there is a shortage of good techs & the good ones are at a point that they don't want to work on the same car everyday for 6 months straight. as for z28 values i have a copper rust free # matching rsz28 that i purchased for 12,000 & i completely gutted the car for resto. i also have a 71 z28 with 16,354 miles 85 % original paint with an l88,dana 60,ansen slots & tall 3 piece(copo) spoiler.dealer invoice, pre-delivery sheet,pro-tecto plate,i gutted the interior but haven't found a build sheet 60,000.
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I can't tell you how much I admire you guys that do the numbers matching down to the last detail. But it just isn't me. I would rather build a street car I can play with all I want
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