1970 Daytona?

[Rick H]

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So did he actually hurt the cars value by creating this Daytona?

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I think Steve answered that question. Affirmative. Patrick

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Ok, now this has peeked my interest. I have always liked these cars having owned a few Mopars in my life time.

Just what would be the expected value of the car if it was put back original?

Steve said that only one other is known to exist.

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If he removed the wing and nose and converted it back to what it should be, the car would be worth quite a bit: It's a 1970 Charger R/T 440 Six Pack four-speed, factory sunroof car. There is only one other known to exist and it's pink with a white top.

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We all know not as much as a real Daytona but buying a fake car at a reasonable price to get a real rare car might be worth while. If you can get the buyer to choke and sell it for what it is.

Just a thought and interesting.

Rick H.

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Nothing about this car(in its current configuration)is desirable to me. Its a clone in my eyes. Thats fine! Valuable? Not to me. Maybe to others. Patrick

[njsteve]

I think he wants $250,000 for it as it is. Of course it is worth nowhere near that in my opinion. I would estimate if it was "unconverted" back to its original shape, it could be worth $125,000??? in perfect condition. That sunroof option plus the 440 Six Pack and the four speed on an R/T-SE(with broadcast sheet to authenticate it all) are all very rare and high dollar options.

[ssl78]

I talked to the owner last night he says he is second owner with all paperwork on the car, he said Chrysler even has documented that it ia real car and 35 of them were supposed to be built in 1970 but only one was. Are you saying it cant be real because its a 1970 Daytona and not a 1969 or do you know something else.

[njsteve]

The car is well known. The paperwork he has does not confirm that Chrysler built the car with a nose and wing on it. The best resource would be Mopar Collectors guide. The articles were in this past years issues. Very good investigative reporting. They tracked down everyone who had a hand in this car over the years and there was some very suspicious activity in its early years. Why do think this guy still has this car after all these years and no-one in the Mopar hobby has snatched it up for their collection yet?

[Mr70]

In the past on here,it was discussed by some at length about a car's documentation not being worth as much as the actual car itself.
I think this would be one good example of the documentation being first,to determine the value of this car,if it even existed at all.

[mockingbird812]

Came across this report to shed some light on this issue:

1970 DAYTONA -- FACT OR FRAUD??

[Canucklehead]

Here's another 70 superbird........
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/The-Super...1QQcmdZViewItem

[PPPJJJFFF]

Here's the real deal. Maybe! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-HEMI...1QQcmdZViewItem

[njsteve]

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Here's the real deal. Maybe! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-HEMI...1QQcmdZViewItem

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Gee, this answer to a bidder's question doesn't sound like a scam in progress does it now :

"I have received over 800 email with this basic request. I can not possibly answer them all so will try to address the main points here. The VIN number will only be available to the high bidder after the auction closes. There is simply too much auto and internet fraud to post it here. The car does have a broadcast sheet and all parts including the nose cone. All of the numbers match, the engine and transmission were properly preserved, it was never hit/damaged, there is no rust. I will not email digital images for the same fraud reasons but winning bidder will be able to examine the vehicle prior to any monetary exchange."