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Old 08-17-2005, 07:55 PM
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Sorry Charley, no dinner for you. Me neither, I am on Beanie Weenies for a while from stretching to buy #18! But thanks for the kind words. And you can't "have" it, but you can own it again. I like that barn with the pretty floor.

Let's see, do I really want to drag race a ZL-1 and risk the original block? I am already down one race car this year, maybe I shouldn't push my luck?

I say we should have a Cobra vs. Super Snake drag race. I am ready to break into the 14's, how about you, Mr. "The Velcro Slowed Me Down"???

If you are game, I'll see if the lame guys from "Pinks" want to come and sanction the Shelby Show Down. I always wanted a Super Snake. LOL. Or, better yet, how about your hot rod 65 vs. my 289 Cobra? Just ideas......

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Old 08-17-2005, 08:22 PM
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When I called and talked to David at legendary prior to the car going to Mecum I was told the 7000 mile 71 HEMI cuda did not have the original motor or trans or original paint. When I asked where the original motor and trans were, David told me he didn't know. Which I found odd since they purchased the car from the second owner whom I presume purchased it from the original owner and had a ton of paperwork on the car??

After the auction I spoke to Galen about a great running HEMI challenger I had recently bought and we discussed the 71 HEMI cuda and the lack of an original motor so I am surprised to hear the car now has an original motor?

Even more surprised to hear there may be more sales of 71 HEMI cuda hardtops for over 785K. I would like to learn if this is reliable information or not?
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:58 PM
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When Legendary's green 71 was at the auction, I was walking around with Galen and he told me the whole story about how he located the original block and Peter rebuilt it and installed it in the car. I don't see what Galen would have to gain by stating the car had its original motor if in fact it did not? That would seem to be a loosing situation for Galen and his reputation. Peter and David from Legendary also told me the car now had its original motor back in it , and it was represented as such by the auction.

As far as originality , the whole car look restored to me , like it was a rotisserie job. Pretty much making the 7k miles a moot point , as the car looked brand new all over.

As far as my information on other sales, it was reported to be reliable but one can never tell with these Hemi Cuda sales reports. I heard all of the reports at Meadow Brook in the company of the Mopar gurus gathered around the Hemi convertible display. You know, the circle of cars that is worth more than every house in my neighborhood
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Old 08-17-2005, 09:43 PM
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Now 2 bids!
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:00 PM
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More like every neighborhood in my city!

I've known Galen for 25 years give or take a few. He would not risk his reputation stating any information that was not accurate about a car. I would stress that if you heard it from him it is quite different than if someone told you he said it. You get a lot of that in today's market. Galen is a very good detective when it comes to tracking down old drivetrains. He does get paid well for his work, too.
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:22 PM
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Steve,
I agree 100%. "Galen said (fill in the blank)" is something you hear all the time wrt Mopars. Problem is, only about 30% of the time Galen actualy DID say it!

The word on the Cuda engine came direct from the horse's mouth, the guy from that little French town in Wisconsin, Prarie DuChen. LOL. I know it was him because he was in jeans, with a denim shirt that said "GTS", a denim jacket that said "GTS" and a denim cap that said, yep, you guessed it! Oh yeah, and he had two cameras , one phone, and a backpack full of files on Mopars. And he had a really funny handshake.

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Old 08-17-2005, 11:26 PM
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David clearly without question told me the car did not have the original engine and trans. Because I kept pressing him about how if they purchased it from the second owner how they could not know where the original engine was? You only have to ask two people to find that answer. The guy they bought it from and the guy he bought it from? I also asked why it needed to be repainted with only 7000 miles and again Dave didn't really know the history of the car. I had no interest in the car without the original motor so my guess is if it had it in the car at the time David would have told me?

It is certainly possible that after my conversation with David ,Galen found the motor or that David didn't know the motor had been reunited with the car at the time I spoke to him. And during one of my conversations with Galen prior to the car being sold at auction we discussed the car not having the original motor and that he was not impressed at all with the car but again it's probable that Galen reunited the motor with the car after that? This is the only sassy green 7000 mile 71 HEMI cuda with tons of paperwork I have ever discussed with anyone so I don't think I have my motors and cars mixed up but anything is possible.

And it's my opinion Galen's honesty, reputation and experience is beyond reproach since I won't buy a Mopar unless he looks at it first so any inference to the contrary is inaccurate.
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:51 PM
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There are a bunch of people, myself included, that would prefer to have a low mileage car in its original condition, no matter how mediocre the paint may be. But the majority of collectors and or "investors" out there want perfect, hence you get low mileage cars that get full restorations. Mopar paint jobs were notoriously bad back in the 70's. Back in the day I never saw a Plum Crazy Mopar without flaking, peeling paint and factory primer showing through. It was a bad paint mix that just wouldn't stay on the cars. In the mid 80's I had an orange and white 71 Hemi Charger with a factory sunroof. The car had 33,000 miles and its original paint which was horrible. It had a factory lead repair in the quarter and paint runs you just wouldn't believe. Once the paint started flaking off the car I had no choice but to sand and repaint. But it was an interesting timepiece at the time and created many a snear at carshows when people would insult the factory paint as they would walk by.
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Galen told me that handshake is a secret and not to be discussed. Leave it to your loose lips to discuss it on a public forum. LOL
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I all so like the un-restored car's. Are there any un-restored Hemicuda Convertibles left?
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