69 Z-28 RS, All # Match, 37,000 Miles and Rusty

[camarojoe]

I thought I just read this car was sold?

[Steve Shauger]

This quote regarding his car almost had me fall off my chair.
"This is the most complete and unmolested project Z-28 that you could ever dream of."

Wake up!

[Charley Lillard]

Play nice children....I'm sure that car is someones dream..

[DarrenX33]

I think those are all valid comments. Thanks Steve and Don.

[69LM1]

Yes, the car is sold. Deposit, I am waiting for the title to clear in my name to send to the new owner. Link was broken, so I gave the correct one. The way things are going you guys would be accusing me of hiding something!

Now for the other stuff:
Steve, Don:
First off, The car has it's original 37k mile drivetrain. How many trailer queens are there out there that have replacement engines? Trannys? Heck, many of them are pieced from several cars by parts bought on ebay. You can always replace a quarter (or two, and a floor in this case), but a replacement engine will always be suspect! How many fake Z's are out there? You KNOW this is a real one. And an RS to boot. And Yellow (not my fav, but popular none the less)
Secondly, by unmolested, I mean that the engine was not taken apart and hot rodded, and all of the parts that were on the car when it came off the showroom floor are still on the car (minus the exh manifolds, rallys and air cleaner top). All of the date codes match up, even the water pump and the alternator. Every "Z" you see has the cowl hood. How many were produced that way do you think?

All of the RS parts are on the car. Correct and Dated. Of the Z-28's out there, how many have had the RS stuff added?
Again, you KNOW that this car is a real RS Z-28. These are the things that unmolested mean to me and many others. What do you mean by unmolested?

No where did I state that the car was restored, or a SURVIVOR. I simply said that it was and it is unmolested. No "day 2" stuff. No Mr. Gasket vavle covers, no aftermarket anything but headers. Even still has the DZ carb. Again, UNMOLESTED.

I gave MANY hi res pics, and showed all of the trouble spots. More than once I said that it was RUSTY! I even stated that you could put a football through the rust holes in the quarters. Even in the subject it says RUSTY. In what way was that deceitful? You would have to be blind to miss that.

I bought the car to resell, AFTER working on it. Many of you requested a "price" to buy it BEFORE I started on it. I threw out a price and a page with details. Many of you were fighting over it at that price. I am still getting calls even today stating that "if things fall thru........."

Darren, like I replied to you on the other post, If you don't like me or the cars I post, then don't buy any from me. I know you have a beef that I am making a few dollars on this, but so what? Just because I like CoPo's does not mean anyone here is obligated to sell me one less than what the market will bear. That's America. There are several people here that called and offered me lowball prices. I did not get mad at them. Just nicely declined. Almost all stated that the lowball price was not their final price, but their starting price. Again, this is America.

Check out ebay Item number: 4560895432, there's a Z, without matching #'s, non RS, in pieces, bad pics, and some rust. clearly states "Not included: Original pulleys, carburator and alternator". It went for $12,900.00 only 1,600.00 less than my Z went for. How much do you think it will cost to get all of the pieces and parts (if you can even find date correct parts, or repops)? I bet more than 1,600.00. And yes, that car does not need anything near what my car (did) does need in the way of body work. If you can do the work yourself, then it is much more cost effective.

And you guys are wondering why the new owner does not want his name listed here? If I did not know better, I would suspect that some of you are trying to "scare" him. With all of these comments I even offered him an out. He could have changed his mind today with a full refund. No questions asked.

Beat up and going to bed,

Rich

[69LM1]

Just reread post #1 above:
"First person to CALL ME FIRST , then paypal me a non refundable 1,000.00 deposit on the 14,500.00 purchase price <u>buys themselves this very original but RUSTY Z-28 RS</u> ." (Underlines added by me)

OK, now I am really going to bed.

Rich

[DarrenX33]

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No where did I state that the car was restored, or a SURVIVOR.

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From "Discussion" section...

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This one's a project all right!
It is unusual in that it was rusting from the top down, rather than the other way.
It is awesome to find a 38k mile survivor. It even still has the am radio in it. Interior is all there and in good shape relatively speaking. Floor boards are solid.

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Your right Rich I am not thrilled with what you did and I have no power or right to stop you. With all the initial interest in this car I would have liked to see it go to someone who wanted it with out paying your markup. Not to say that that person might have turned around and done the same thing. Again, you have every right to do what you did just as I have every right to not like it. The privilege of being an American .I will indeed give you credit for becoming a paying member as I think you have realized this site has helped you a great deal. The site has helped me as well. We have some differences in opinion here but I'm not taking any of this to the grave with me.

[Belair62]

I think it was described pretty good in the ad.. At least you know what it started life as when you finish the resto...hell all resto's are ambitious anyway. Even if it had decent floors with a few pinholes you would probably replace them...whats the diff if you can see your shoes before you start the resto...same amount of money for the floors...nasty looking now...a gem later...

[BARN FIND]

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Yes, the car is sold. Deposit, I am waiting for the title to clear in my name to send to the new owner. Link was broken, so I gave the correct one. The way things are going you guys would be accusing me of hiding something!

Now for the other stuff:
Steve, Don:
First off, The car has it's original 37k mile drivetrain.

Rich

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I was just wondering what sort of documentation you have that shows that this car has only 37k miles on it? I realize it is already sold but I was curious how that can be documented. I am not being a "donkey" here, I am asking if there is a way to find out short of a dated "logbook" like a aircraft has.