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Old 12-24-2004, 03:18 AM
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Maybe we should promise them we will quit buying Toyotas and Hondas.
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Old 12-24-2004, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: Petition GM for all GM car info ???

I think a good idea on the petition would be to list the make and model of your "old car" as well as the make and model of your "current driver(s)." For example: Jon Smith, 69 Camaro and 2004 Yukon/2001 Impala. Then they would get the hint that as vocal supporters, our opinions and purchasing power can and will affect their bottom line.
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Old 12-24-2004, 04:03 AM
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Maybe we should promise them we will quit buying Toyotas and Hondas.

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Let's see here:

My parents Toyota Avalon Made in Ky or TN not sure which plant: 143K miles (seniors who travel alot)and no problems whatsoever other than new tires and brakes and a alignment or two. (..they are seniors after all). Replaced the battery last week because going to Va. to visit my sister and her husband this weekend. Battery still worked fine but did not want to take a chance. Car still rides like a new car at this mileage.

My wifes 2002 Camaro (V-6) made in Canada. Now has 21k on it. Front engine seal replaced at 6k miles, power window switch at 10k, Traction control sensor replaced last winter. God forbid what this car will have done to it by 143k miles like my parents Avalon.

This is why GM is going down the tubes.
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Old 12-24-2004, 04:29 AM
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Everyone here is bringing up valid points,but when I talked to Jim M. earlier this year,his biggest concern/frustration was to try &amp; enforce GM facilities throughout to STOP throwing out the records they have left into the garbage.
It doesn't matter what they ultimately decide to do with them in the future,if all the remaining records are COMPLETELY gone by then.
Every day,somebody,somewhere in a GM Building is throwing out a Box filled with old paperwork.And No one over there really knows what's in them,or even Cares.
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Old 12-24-2004, 04:36 AM
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Most "Excellent" Point Rick.
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I really thing IF and that is a big "IF" that they would be foolish in this ecomomy to alienate any old customers. This would actually cost them zilch so I would only hope that they would have to set up and take notice if we get as many signatures as I think we will in a years time.

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Old 12-24-2004, 04:45 AM
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Sorry but the Statute of liminations would prevent that.
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This is true. I have a friend who is a consultant at the GM Tech Center, and while he is not involved with cars as a hobby, he told me that he has seen dumpsters full of old records being pitched. He also told me that some of it wasn't that old, like from last year.
Since he is a consultant, and doesn't work for GM, his job is to figure out how much it costs GM to build a car. Seems that they don't have a clue. GMAC makes more money than the cars they manufacture. The pension benefits cost more than the profit made from cars an trucks, and since Honda and Toyota don't have the UAW to deal with, (no offense to any union guys), but that saves them tons of cash.
Bottom line is that GM has bigger things to worry about.
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I'm in
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Old 12-24-2004, 06:47 AM
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Whitetop...I would still prefer to keep my car AND repair dollars with GM...or Ford...even though they all have tentacles worldwide...they may have problems but ...I would rather see this company stay an AMERICAN company...maybe I'm just getting old or something...but I'm sick of seeing old American companies get bought up by overseas concerns...just because Toyota et al have plants here doen't mean it's all happy happy...it's still Toyota...JMO
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