Petition GM for all GM car info ???

[whitetop]

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Maybe we should promise them we will quit buying Toyotas and Hondas.

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Let's see here:

My parents Toyota Avalon Made in Ky or TN not sure which plant: 143K miles (seniors who travel alot)and no problems whatsoever other than new tires and brakes and a alignment or two. (..they are seniors after all). Replaced the battery last week because going to Va. to visit my sister and her husband this weekend. Battery still worked fine but did not want to take a chance. Car still rides like a new car at this mileage.

My wifes 2002 Camaro (V-6) made in Canada. Now has 21k on it. Front engine seal replaced at 6k miles, power window switch at 10k, Traction control sensor replaced last winter. God forbid what this car will have done to it by 143k miles like my parents Avalon.

This is why GM is going down the tubes.

[Mr70]

Everyone here is bringing up valid points,but when I talked to Jim M. earlier this year,his biggest concern/frustration was to try & enforce GM facilities throughout to STOP throwing out the records they have left into the garbage.
It doesn't matter what they ultimately decide to do with them in the future,if all the remaining records are COMPLETELY gone by then.
Every day,somebody,somewhere in a GM Building is throwing out a Box filled with old paperwork.And No one over there really knows what's in them,or even Cares.

[hugger_69]

Most "Excellent" Point Rick.

[ANDY M]

This is true. I have a friend who is a consultant at the GM Tech Center, and while he is not involved with cars as a hobby, he told me that he has seen dumpsters full of old records being pitched. He also told me that some of it wasn't that old, like from last year.
Since he is a consultant, and doesn't work for GM, his job is to figure out how much it costs GM to build a car. Seems that they don't have a clue. GMAC makes more money than the cars they manufacture. The pension benefits cost more than the profit made from cars an trucks, and since Honda and Toyota don't have the UAW to deal with, (no offense to any union guys), but that saves them tons of cash.
Bottom line is that GM has bigger things to worry about.
Andy

[Belair62]

Whitetop...I would still prefer to keep my car AND repair dollars with GM...or Ford...even though they all have tentacles worldwide...they may have problems but ...I would rather see this company stay an AMERICAN company...maybe I'm just getting old or something...but I'm sick of seeing old American companies get bought up by overseas concerns...just because Toyota et al have plants here doen't mean it's all happy happy...it's still Toyota...JMO

[Salvatore]

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Whitetop...I would still prefer to keep my car AND repair dollars with GM...or Ford...even though they all have tentacles worldwide...they may have problems but ...I would rather see this company stay an AMERICAN company...maybe I'm just getting old or something...but I'm sick of seeing old American companies get bought up by overseas concerns...just because Toyota et al have plants here doen't mean it's all happy happy...it's still Toyota...JMO

[/ QUOTE ]WOW Bob, You even sound educated! Belair for President! Our first Italian President.

[Belair62]

I just don't care whether imports are better than American made cars...if they can be called that any more.. ...it's the export of dollars and companies that bugs me.

[Salvatore]

Well Bob, You are right. We hardly produce nothing here anymore. Pretty soon the word FACTORY will be removed from our dictionary. I am not for Corporate tax cuts when Corporate sends it over seas anyhow! I have a son leaving Jan. 8th to get ready to go to Iraq. What a disaster this is turning out to be. We are really very upset about this. Another war that looks like no one can win.

[ANDY M]

GM and Toyota have been partners for years, co-producing Nova's and Corollas, Geo and other Toyota models. GM is also partners with Subaru, Suzuki, Izusa, Kia and other companies in Europe. The motor in the Saturn Vue is made by Honda. Very reliable.
Ford is part owner of Mazda, and builds cars in Flat Rock MI that roll off the line as both Ford & Mazda.
Chrysler has been part owner of Mitsubishi for years, etc. etc.
It's a global market. Get over it.

[P.J.]

I buy only cars that my neighbours make.

a proud retired member of UAW and CAW.
and as far as the signatures go for it where there is a will their's away.
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