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Old 12-16-2004, 03:36 AM
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I even told them I have the original owner, his wife and daughter standing by to testify to the facts, but they still wouldn't believe it. Kind of bizarre, coming from the legal world as I do: In a courtroom the factory blueprints, i.e business records, would trump anyone's personal observations when it comes to how much weight an item of evidence is given. I guess I'm just living in the Bizarro World again.
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Old 12-16-2004, 06:36 AM
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Easy does it regarding the judges. Although I did not judge your car (I judge Vintage/Survivor class) I did respond to your request for my oppinion. My opinion is base on seven original paint cars which I have owned and/or certified. The original cars are the benchmark for how cars should be restored (in my opinion). We all know the factory had variances in many of their processes. The same can be said for their documentation. I standby my findings that your stripe dimensions are not what is typically found. There are several stencil manufacturers that replicate stripes to what I have found. I understand your frustration and you raise good points, and they should be debated. Also remember all the judges volunteer their time and do it for the fun and love of the hobbie. BTW your looks awesome and is truly one of a kind.

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Old 12-16-2004, 08:02 AM
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paceme,
dont take offense but let me get this straight..Steve has photo's showing how his strips were applied at the factory..he put them back exactly as they were from new and you are saying they should be altered from that to a standard set by ????? I would agree with you if he had no doc's to back up his claim.....the cars were all not built perfect back then and had there own personalities...all the survivor cars I have seen look like the stuff we buy new today...horrible sheet metal alignment, over spray...no paint on items etc...I worry we are ending up with cookie cutter cars today looking for that perfect score at all costs...
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