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Old 11-25-2004, 11:47 PM
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I don't mean to be negative, but the new Mustang looks very similar to the Volvo and it really doesn't do anything for me. Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of Mustangs, but this newest styling doesn't work for me. And remember how well the retro T-Bird did? Retro isn't necessarily a good thing. It's really the fact that the Mustang is the only rwd V8 game in town.
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Old 11-26-2004, 12:26 AM
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My cousin owns a 2004 Mustang MACH 1. After driving two 2005's (auto & 5spd) his opinion was that his 32 valve DOHC modular engine 04' was faster and the 04' sitting position was more comfortable.....He reports that the 32 Valve engine

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Old 11-26-2004, 03:30 AM
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I gotta tell you, I've sat in the 2005 Mustang and found it superior to the 2004 (and prior models) in every way. It's longer, better finished and just overall more comfortable. I think they will sell as many of these GTs as they can screw together. Already Roush has come out with his upgrade of the car....gotta give Ford credit for hanging in there with the pony car.
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Old 11-26-2004, 03:53 AM
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It's really the fact that the Mustang is the only rwd V8 game in town.


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Jeff take this into consideration. Even when the Mustang was NOT the only RWD game in town it SPANKED the Camaro. Check out these staggering statistics.

Production figures 2002
Mustang-142,404 Camaro-42,098

Production figures 2001
Mustang-155,162 Camaro-29,009

Production figures 2000
Mustang-202,990 Camaro-45,417

I bet that Ford sells more Mustangs than it has in years with the new design. I said in a different thread that never in my career have I seen so much excitement over a new car. This car is bringing people out of the woodwork to get a look at and maybe even purchase this car. This car is not like the T-bird. That was a niche vehicle that catered to a few. This is a car that everybody can identify with and most of all afford. You can get a loaded GT with leather and all for like $25,900 sticker. Where are you going to find a brand new, good looking, 300hp, full warranty car for that price??? Chevy needs to get on the ball, I think Ford has hit a home run here.
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Old 11-26-2004, 04:04 AM
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Hey Frank, I agree. Now empty your "received private message" box so we can send you PMs.
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Old 11-26-2004, 04:13 AM
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[Frank: excellent research! But you should also throw the Firebird #s in their. Kinda like the F150 versus the Chevy & GMC, Ford has all their eggs in 1 basket while Chevy & GM split their market. Although, adding in the Firebird #s isn't gonna make much of a difference.]

Now, "why" does the Mustang outsell the F-body? It wasn't performance, the styling of both were on par with each other, and pricing was comparable...so where's the beef? Frank, you guys see these people everyday...what did they say when the F-bodys were still being made??
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Old 11-26-2004, 04:28 AM
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I cleared up some Tom!

Rob here is what Ford themselves and customers have told us. First most did not like the body style of the F-body, said it was stale. (I personally do not agree with that. My father even owns one and I think that they look sinister!) The F-body was without a doubt more superior in power to the Mustang until 2005 so that could not have been the problem. Second and most importantly the Mustang has a HUGE base of woman buyers. In fact some at Ford have said that they are worried about what impact that the "aggressive" new styling will have on woman's opinions of the re designed Mustang. I personally have not seen this on the showroom floor. I have not heard a woman say that they do not like the car yet.
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Sherry from Sherrys wigs drives the New Mustang.
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Old 11-26-2004, 05:40 AM
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Frank, I agree that Ford has always outsold Chevy when it comes to Mustang vs Camaro but I think the biggest reason for that is because of the 3 year head start Ford had and people will stay loyal to a certain brand. But you can't look at the Camaro and Firebird sales in the last 5 years of its existance because GM didn't even advertise the cars knowing that they were being cancelled. You have to look at the 93-95 Camaro sales to see the increase due to the new(LT1) engine and body style. GM definitely dropped the ball with the Camaro and Firebird but we know that was really due to where it was made. A comment I always heard people say that they didn't like the 4th gen Camaro because it was much harder to get in and out of and almost impossible for people to get into the back seat. I don't really understand what that has to do with a 300hp sports car. It's kind of funny because Ford is 10 years late with the 300hp $26,000 sports car, the Camaro was exactly that 10 years ago. It really comes down to brand loyalty in the end though.
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Old 11-26-2004, 06:10 AM
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Jeff I don't know about the 3 year head start thing between the Mustang and Camaro. MAJORITY of the people buying Mustangs today did not buy them new 41 model years ago. So the difference in the first three years would have no bearing on the brand loyalty issue. Where brand loyalty might come into play is it might be safe to say that more people buy Mustangs just because there WERE more sold new compared to Camaro so there is that thing of being able to identify with the car more because most people could say that they knew someone very close to them that had a Mustang new.

The thing about the Mustang being way under powered compared to the Camaro may precisely be the reason that people bought more Mustangs new. There car was not some uncontrollable powerhouse for it's majority buyer which is woman. Just food for thought.
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