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Old 07-18-2004, 03:57 PM
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Mark,

The cuncurrent Vin Theory was first put forward by John Grinnnel in a book from 2003 titled "Standard Catalog of Camaro". Build sequence info is accepted from multiple sources and makes complete sence.

Great info you provided! Just a few questions: Can it be verified from GM Records? Who currently has this data? Is it from an official source? If not who compiled it?

Sorry - Just a couple more questions: (assuming that there were all 1000 cars on the line when the strike occurred) and lets say that the VIN's and trim Tags were all attached at the time of the strike- and there were 1000 cars left to finish in June (when the strike ended) - then there must be a build date later than 05A-Right?? Assuming all other non Camaro line production was shut down and all remaining Camaros were built one after another right after the strike ended- How long do you think this process would take would this take? 1 Week Perhaps?

Assembly dates and component dates must be all over the range for these final cars then - correct?

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Old 07-18-2004, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: 69 Z28 No Sale E-Bay....

Maybe Kurt will chime in. CRG should have a good database.
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Old 07-18-2004, 07:00 PM
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Old 07-19-2004, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: 69 Z28 No Sale E-Bay....

Sure it can be documented. The last VIN from LA is 9L531163 assembled in July of 69 with an 05A cowl tag. Norwood passes VIN 531163 in about 2 days into November of 68. (Last October VIN per GM's official list is 530337, but this is the car that actually rolled of the line at 12 midnight on 10/31/68 (Still had another 2 days of 10D cars on the line at that instant) so 9N531163 would carry a 10D cowl tag. Last Norwood VIN is 9N711922 in November of 69

VIN List - select VIN Table on left side of page

69 body numbers are seqential by date (they are actually the dealer order number assigned once the order was accepted by GM). They were not necessarily built in the order they were received in due to the need to schedule parts. There are gaps in them as orders were canceled but body 111000 could have been built in LA, and 111001 could have been built in Norwood.
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Old 07-19-2004, 07:40 AM
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Good info! Thanks for taking the time to research it. I noticed the source as the old USCC.

I miss the technical features that they offered.

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Old 07-21-2004, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: 69 Z28 No Sale E-Bay....

Most of the VIN info (re the #'ing at the different plants)is posted on the CRG site.

The end of the month #'s are actually via GM production records, USCC just published them. They are a good reference point, but there are several issues with those #'s, so don't rely on them too much.

The ordering info was published by GM in an explanation on how the ordering system worked. It is different from 67-8.

The car being discussed is a hodge-podge of parts.....
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Old 07-21-2004, 01:11 AM
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Kurt,

Thanks. I knew the USCC info was a little loose also. it is too bad that whoever put the car together did not do a better job finding the best parts when the car was re built. Still a nice looking car, I love the Orange with the white stripes. Good car to drive.

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Old 07-21-2004, 03:00 AM
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Kurt,

Thanks. I knew the USCC info was a little loose also. it is too bad that whoever put the car together did not do a better job finding the best parts when the car was re built. Still a nice looking car, I love the Orange with the white stripes. Good car to drive.

Phil

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First thing I noticed was it had the wrong spoiler,mine is a 10C LOS and still has the original 68 shorty.
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Old 07-21-2004, 04:51 AM
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I think it was a non spoiler car-Originally
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