69 Z28 Stock Flat Hood

[FrankieZ]

ok heres a car thats pretty close to perfect if only i had 60K to spend
go to cars and to white/black Z28

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One of the finest Z28's that we have seen for sale. This car received the Diamond Award from The Camaro Nationals and scored 984 out of a possible 1000 points! It is flawless everywhere and will please the most discriminating fussy buyer. 302DZ # matching engine, 4 speed transmission and rear axle, power steering, power disc brakes, console with gauge package, factory Radio, rear bumper guards, cowl induction hood, deluxe white & black houndstooth interior, Dover White exterior with black Z stripes. There are 295 miles on the odometer since restoration. It was reported to us that there was $80,000 spent on the restoration. We have a copy of the original MSO, original title and copies of all titles since new. We also have the 4 "original award certificates with judging sheets. If you are wanting the finest quality Z that has been judged by the Experts, this is your car! $58,900


My god this car does not even have the smog on it and they want 59K

FrankieZ

[Salvatore]

That is right 59,000. A little high! On the other hand, Where are all those $30,000 Z's at that people are telling you about. Once you really look at them, there are not really worthy. I have a very nice one myself. R/S with endura bumper Z/28. Sam

[Belair62]

wanting 59 is different than getting 59 !!! I would go inspect the red one...

[DjD]

Pointing out the missing smog and wrong manifolds was not a put down of the car. Knowing what you are looking at is a great help at bargining time. I was also going to point out the seperation in the center of the grill stiffner in the 1st pic. Again not picking the car apart...

Around here the smog equipment is an expensive item and most Z owners are putting it back on or running the correct manifolds (also expensive) with plugged smog tube bungs.

Good luck - buyer beware...

[Salvatore]

Dennis, You got good eyes with the grill stiffner. I feel that all cars are worth something. Like you said we only pick them apart to adjust the cars value. The more points the car has the more it is worth. The less amount of positives the less it is worth. Numbers matching is not as critical to me as a near perfect resto where everything has to look correct. Non matching has to reflect the price. I feel in my area car prices do reflect more the quality of the resto, more than if the motor is original to the car. JMO Sam

[hvychev]

Why is every car frowned upon because they don't have smog???????? Every time a really nice car is posted there someone is saying...wheres the smog?

I can't wait to get that crap off of my Deuce. The only reason it's still on is because I promised Marlin when I blow his doors off it would be a fair fight. After SCR7 it is gettin deep sixed!

[Chris396]

People love the smog. When I'm at a car show someone always coments on it. That is how insane we are. The first thing that got thrown in the trash is the thing everyone wants now.

[DjD]

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Why is every car frowned upon because they don't have smog???????? Every time a really nice car is posted there someone is saying...wheres the smog?

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Nobody is frowning on the car, why can't someone point out something that might give another a barganing chip at a dealership where the car is most likely on consignment and the seller is gonna get several thousand less than the asking price? You're not the seller or the dealer listing the car are you?

From the 3 pic's I've seen the engine looks very clean, tie-raps are cool holding the hood up on a car like the mule but look real tacky in place of wire looms and the grill stiffner is bent, it's little things that make me wonder and suggest it's likely to be a consignment and over priced. I'm sure it's a nice car but if you have to spend $1500 to put smog back on it, replace a possible broken grill and since there are no more shots showing the rest of the car who knows what other little items might add up to another grand or more that could come off the asking price right off the top.

Just a small tidbit more on the smog equipment, here in CA there is no manditory smog test for these old cars. The law still says the car has to pass both visual and and be compliant to be operated. So we all run around in a grey area, if you get pulled over and the cop decides to send you to the smog ref and you don't pass visuals what do you do? Everyone use to take their chances, many still do and the cops are fairly cool but we have this group of folks that feel our old cars are gross polluters. They keep introducing bills that if passed would put everything back to 1964 in the loop for smog checks... Funny, was there even any smog equipment on many of the early say, 1964 cars? The bill starters don't care if they are testing and failing cars that have no polution control devices to be repaired, they are just glad to get them gross polluters off the road.

So in light of all that, smog pumps and proper exhaust manifolds are in big demand out here. Hobbiests are just being prepared for what could be coming their way in a few years. Imagine what it might be like 5 years from now trying to find a smog pump!!

I got a bit long winded but I hope that answered your question! Besides all that, why do you care what others want to talk about or want to do with their cars?

Sorry Charlie!!

[DarrenX33]

Hey Frank! Deep six it over here.

[Mr70]

Get in Line.