Short of Paying Joel for confirmation....

[Yellow 69 z28]

"The problem was / is that I want to restore it back to GM specs but get stuck on the 427 parts."

Its all good. The car has always been known as a super car in my neck of the woods. The late boyfriend of the girl who owned the car before me wrenched for a NHRA Div. 1 B/M Camaro in the "Grumpy" days. So with out him and paper work its what we call in my profession a "cold case".

I have researched all that I can short of Paying Joel for confirmation.

Expert Testimony.

[AutoInsane]

What are the main indicators pointing to this car being a Motion car? Is the ex- b/f deceased? or does 'late' just mean ex?

[hvychev]

Just a thought but if the owner was a NHRA Division 1 wrench why would he spend the big cake to buy a Motion prepared car? What I mean is if he was an experienced wrench at that time why would he spend the big money for Motion to do to a car what he could have done himself for less than half of the money?

[427TJ]

Another possible angle comes from the stories about the "stolen" musclecars cars that were converted to drag-only cars by their owners. Someone else on this forum speculated that owners used to report their cars "stolen," collect the insurance money, and then spend it on converting the car to a track-only car. Probably a widespread scam throughout the years. It's possible that there are a few Motion cars out there that have spent the last 30+ years on the strip with no clue as to their origin.

How's that for compelling speculation?

[MadMike]

This setup was the hot ticket in the 80's, and the mid to late 70's too. All the stuff mentioned was available for purchase by anyone.

You need to know the history of the car back to 1969, not starting in the late 70's. Someone could have gotten a mr.gasket catalog and spent a couple bux in 1972 and hotrodded the car like everyone else.

If you want to low buck this thing, decifer your engine code. If the engine is a 1969 vintage L88 or L72 427 then you can get excited. If the engine is a 1975 454 from a dump truck, then save your money.

I believe joel, being Mr. Economical would start with the most up front. I.e. an L78 or L34 396 car, something that already had a 12 bolt and heavy duty drivetrain in it. Then he'd take the expensive L78 (thank you and resell it) for the 427 you're getting. If the car started life as a 6 banger he'd be throwing out the 6 cylinder and having to obtain a rear end and transmission, plus the motor mounts, changing the heater core.....

[Pantera]

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I believe joel, being Mr. Economical would start with the most up front. I.e. an L78 or L34 396 car, something that already had a 12 bolt and heavy duty drivetrain in it. Then he'd take the expensive L78 (thank you and resell it) for the 427 you're getting.


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I would say Mr smart as a FOX, because he could sell the takeout used motor to just about anybody in town for nearly as much as his cost on the "new" crate motor he was putting back in. No way would he start with a 6 cyl car. To much to have to change. Time is money. With a DEALER on his side he had a good thing going. he would just order or transfer to get the closest configeration he could use.

I was suprised that he used a 390 hp vette to make a Phase III GT like he did on my '70 BM car. I would have thought he would have ordered a hi per motor in the car but he may have had to rush it and took what he could get. '70 vettes were selling pretty well back then.

[ralfsyenko]

what is joels current e-mail.