70 LS6

[Jeff H]

There are some Camaros that have been found with a buildsheet. So you're saying that a Z28 with a buildsheet should be worth more than a Z28 with P-O-P or window sticker? I think that most people look at documentation from the point of view that it can all be faked, and if you're not comfortable with what you're looking at, walk away. Look at the P-O-P Charley posted from that L89 Camaro at BJ. But to answer your first question, if you offered me an LS6 with a buildsheet and a COPO with a P-O-P or window sticker and both had matching #'s engines/transmissions, I would take the COPO because I'm a Camaro nut. The difference in the type of documentation wouldn't be a factor.

While I also prefer a Camaro to a chevelle... I would take the LS6 if both cars were in equal condition BASED on the documentation. Also "YES" I would take a Z with a broadcast sheet over a Z without one but a POP anyday of the week...

[yountto]

Simply said ....1000["secret" handshake availabilty] vs 25[available to anyone at any mundane dealership] produced,425 vs 450 Horsepower, hardtop vs convertible....If an ls6 doesnt have a buildsheet its considered a fake but a copo with only an "original" engine,owner history,or title is documented???? Ask any collector if hed give up his copo or his ls6 ragtop[that is if he was lucky enough to have one in his collection]..he may prefer copos personally but if we are talking $$$ and rarity,aint no comparison,period .........if 1000 production constitutes a secret,it would seem the ls6 ragtop buyers had a bigger secret..

[camarojoe]

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if 1000 production constitutes a secret,it would seem the ls6 ragtop buyers had a bigger secret..

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"The secret" to the LS6 ragtop is that a supercar buyer interested in speed/performance usually did not want a more expensive, heavier convertible. It wasn't a secret to order one, it was just that not many folks wanted it. Same reason they only made a handful of Hemi convertibles too.

[yountto]

"The secret" to the LS6 ragtop is that a supercar buyer interested in speed/performance usually did not want a more expensive, heavier convertible. It wasn't a secret to order one, it was just that not many folks wanted it. Same reason they only made a handful of Hemi convertibles too."..................................."undesirab le,heavy and expensive"...never heard of a $1,300,000.00 musclecar quite described that way.....

[camarojoe]

No offense meant, as I was not in any way saying that LS6 ragtops or Hemi convertibles are not desireable. I think you misread what i said... I have no arguement that LS6 ragtops and Hemi convertibles are VERY desireable and VERY valuble... TODAY. I was speaking about when these cars were being sold new 30+years ago. The desireabilty today stems from the fact that they WERE very low production when new.... I'm sure if GM or Chrysler could have sold 25,000 of these in 69/70 they would have, and they would not have the collectibility or value they have today. The fact that not many people bought them back then is what MAKES them what they are today.

[Jeff H]

The initial discussion was about LS6 coupes, not convertibles. I'd take the LS6 convert over a COPO any day. But not an LS6 coupe over a COPO.

[Jeff Murphy]

I'd rather take a COPO with factory and/or dealership docs. My 9561 has the following docs, each showing the major option codes:

- Original hand written dealer invoice
- Car Shipper
- Car Invoice Mail Copy

Seems like Gary Holub has used this criteria to great effect...

[yountto]

Its not at all a question of which car someone would rather have,there are always personal preferences ..Higher market value and rarity of the Ls6 convertible over the copo camaro isnt a personal opinion however, its a fact...There arent enough Ls6 convertible owners on this site to counter all the copo owners opinions,which tells a little about rarity by itself..I personally like all musclecars,but production #s and sale prices are well documented on each of these cars,and there is no comparison on either topic.......

[camarojoe]

I don't think there is any argument about LS6 convertible rarity or desirability...they are much, much rarer than a LS6 coupe... but the original comparison of value was between an LS6 hardtop VS a COPO Camaro, in which i still believe the 69 427 COPO Camaro (or 69 COPO Chevelle for that matter) is not only much rarer, but also more valuable than a comparibly documented RPO LS6 coupe. Personally, I wish the COPO WAS worth less, FAR less.... then maybe I could afford to buy one!