GMMG CAR ON EBAY

[matt murphy]

KILLER RESEARCH MAN [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img] BEERS ON ME. YOU THE MAN JEFF. YOU WERE DEAD ON WITH YOUR RESEARCH.

[Zedder]

Sounds like you're proud of cheating? Now the shenanigans from last week make total sense. It's funny how quickly one's reputation can be ruined. GMMG... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif[/img]

[Stuart Adams]

Jeff, awesome work. Charlie is fired and your hired as WEBSITE GESTAPO. That tactic on ebay bothers me. I'm sure the car is legit and the parties involved meant no harm. I don't want this post to stir anything up, that is not my nature. As far as Charlie, we all know he is awesome (sometimes).

[JChlupsa]

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Jeff, awesome work. Charlie is fired and your hired as WEBSITE GESTAPO.

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Awesome work no, it was more than I that questioned the seller and the bidders. And as for fired no way, its the mix of all of us that makes everything work that way it does.

[matt murphy]

ZEDDER . . . he was dead on with his research . . . just wrong about the outcome . . .

By the way . . . I like your interests in L78 cars. I have a '67 Camaro Indy Pace Car with an L78 that Larry Christenson is restoring. A '68 Nova L78 that we all know about, and a '69 Camaro L78 car that Dick Arons turned into a 427 Drag Car, that Brian Henderson and crew are going to restore for me. Ironically that car was sponsored by Berger Chevy and Motion Performance, two pretty cool performance centers of the 60's and still very much into muscle cars today. I have a chance to buy a '70 L78 Camaro, but the funds aren't there right now for it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif[/img]

[Zedder]

Matt, Yes, I saw your L78 Nova at Carlisle this year and it is a beautiful car. An L78 Pace Car would certainly be on my short list for the future, especially since my first Camaro when I was 17 was a Pace Car (small block - one of the 10 Canadian delivered cars). We actually have more in common also - my 3 1/2 year old son's name is Matthew (already teaching him Karate, so the name calling won't last too long [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]) and I was born in Ireland.

As for the stuff above - regardless of your true intentions, it always boils down to perceptions when dealing on a public forum and especially when representing a business. Sounds like your wife set you straight though [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I've got a wife that's good at that too [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

[matt murphy]

Does she know about your cars ?? I have to hide mine here at the shop so she doesn't ask for more shoes and stuff. HA HA

Hey, I also have an 8 year old boy named Matthew Timothy Murphy . . . I also told my wife that his grandpa put the car bug in him through me. He wants the '68 Funny Car Camaro we have when he turns 16 . . . [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]

[bbdon]

Regardless of the idea that the shill bidding was only driving the price up to what someone thinks is the real value of the car, shill bidding is WRONG! I cannot believe that some people seem to think that this shill bidding was OK. How can anyone trust that an auction that involves any of these people is fair? They cant. Only a fool would bid now, or do any future business with those involved.

[Chevy454]

So let me get this straight...

"Kratchmer" made the original post from Carnahan's computer, yet Carnahan (kamaroking) allegedly didn't know what was happening. So, Murphy plays along and builds up the car and provides contact info, to which "Kratchmer" replies back, still playing the part of "interested party". He evens states he "has bid on it". He's right about that, as he bid on it 2 days ago (12-9-2003). A quick check on Ebay reveals that one other person has bid, that being "hugger66", which is Matt Murphy.
So, you've got an employee of GMMG selling a car, the owner of GMMG bidding on it, and a "friend" of BOTH parties also bidding on it. Does this look like the workings of a legitimate auction? What if an innocent and LEGITIMATE party had placed a bid? Would they have quit bidding, seeing as the auction is (and has been for some time) out of there respective price ranges? Is this standard practice for ALL GMMG cars that "sell" on Ebay? Is shill bidding now "acceptable"?

I guess all of this just strikes me as "funny". Just a few short days ago Carnahan basically "thumbed his nose" at this site and it's admin/moderators. His first posts on this site were an attack on another member who had concerns about a car HIS company built, followed by an off-hand remark about filling out his profile. All my offline efforts yielded was me hearing about how "he knew he was right" and how he cares "more about the truth and the cars", or how he'd "built over 700 cars" and wanted "off the site" and would "never post again". But, when it comes to selling his car, guess which site he/they choose(s)? I'll give you a hint: it wasn't LS1Tech or LS1.com....

[hvychev]

This whole situation stinks......... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif[/img]