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Old 12-05-2003, 04:40 PM
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I found the info I was looking for.

63,810 64 GP's were built, 3124 came with synchromech and 60,686 had Roto's. No breakdown between three and four speed sticks.

That is A LOT of sticks for a big car, but in that era, Pontiac had a great and sporty image and I bet they installed more manual floor shifts at a higher percentage than other brands.
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Old 12-05-2003, 08:10 PM
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-----I guess my only questions would be "how many of the synchromesh cars were 4spd"(probably the majority),and how many were 421HOs. There were,as you know,a whole bunch of Pontiac engine choices. Almost all the 4spd GPs I hear about were 389s. As this was the first year for the GTO I think its safe to say that a good number of guys who would have bought big-body Hi-Po Pontiacs took the bait and downsized. They realized that weight loss was cheap horsepower.Thanks for your input!.........Bill S
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Old 12-05-2003, 08:22 PM
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It needs to be remembered that the automatic transmission until 1965/1966 was the old slim jim hydromatic. Prone to failure and inconsistent running unless rebuilt by B&M or some other race oriented shop. Didn't take much to burn one out and the 1-2 gear changes were really close together.

GM & their good auto's did not come out early on and so many ordered sticks instead. Remember that back then (1964) most people learned to drive on a stick not an automatic. Had a tough time convincing my father to get rid of the old '53 chev with stick and get the '57 Pontiac with the automatic. It cost him about $250 to get the trans rebuild in 1962 for that '57. OUCH. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif[/img]I did not tear it up. My older brother did. It had been his car.
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