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#1
11-25-2003, 04:11 PM
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Re: 70 Judge RAIV and V continuation
Why would you bother this man again his quote below is from a previous post. If this car was real I believe he would be one of the first to talk it up.
"Guys Pontiac "never" built a Ram Air V GTO at the factory!!!" Jim Mattison Pontiac Historic Services The RA V horse is starting to look like road kill it has been beatin so badly. 
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11-25-2003, 04:31 PM
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Re: 70 Judge RAIV and V continuation
Because Jim was kind enough to call me during this debate, we worked things out between us. I apologized to him in person and publicly. And he stated, he would do what he could to help in the matter.
Any other questions?
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#3
11-25-2003, 04:37 PM
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Re: 70 Judge RAIV and V continuation
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Why would you bother this man again his quote below is from a previous post. If this car was real I believe he would be one of the first to talk it up. "Guys Pontiac "never" built a Ram Air V GTO at the factory!!!" Jim Mattison Pontiac Historic Services The RA V horse is starting to look like road kill it has been beatin so badly. [/ QUOTE ] I don't see how you can look at it that way. According to Chevrolet records, they never built a 68 Z28 convertible either. And we know that car went to Engineering to have the crossram and rear disc brakes put on. I think the research that has been done regarding this GTO has been very informative. Even if it can be proven that this car arrived at Knafel with a RA IV engine, then what's the story behind the RA V engine that is in the car now? It has the correct engine code and production stampings. Were they stamped after the fact? We'll probably never really know for sure, but why call it a dead issue when there are still questions worth finding answers to.
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69 Z28 JL8, #'s match - being restored
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#4
11-25-2003, 05:41 PM
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Re: 70 Judge RAIV and V continuation
Jeff I agree that it would be cool to find out how the RA V got in that Judge and if it in fact had some race history like the Tin Indian, but I think that being installed at the factory or engineering is becoming a beatin horse issue. Unlike the 68 Z-28 Covert which had documentation to support that it is the real deal the supposed RA V car in question does not.
I like all musclecars but have been a Pontiac person for a long time. Pontiac guys always love to talk about the RA V as the Hemi or Chevy Rat beater. Although it pains me to write this Chevrolet was always and is GM's racing flagship and when MacDonald took over at Pontiac a lot of programs were stopped. Look at Pontiac today they pulled out of NASCAR. With Toyota coming into the sport you can bet dollars to donuts that all the Racing program money that was earmarked for Pontiac will be given to Chevrolet. ( I know that's a little off topic)to kick Toyotas butt.
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