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Thats a darn good perspective on it Greg.....
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This post has been a whirlwind today! Clint congrats on your find, hope it turns out great for you, and another possible Yenko find is great for the hobby and preservation of these great cars,but bashing each other over a car deal, when it can only cause hard feelings is absolutely insane, especially when you guys are going to see each other at shows and other functions for these cars! I think that Mr. Yenko was trying to look out for Mark Hasset's best interest when he thought the cars had the same VIN#'s, but I came across a website last night that really disturbs me and it should concern everyone else in this hobby,(www.trimtags.com), they restamp trim to your specifications, and they claim not re-stamp VIN tags, but if they can do trim tags, I know they have the ability to do VIN# tags, so what would stop them from or someone else paying these guys some big bucks to make these tags for a car, to say it was a Yenko, etc. What would the situation be if two identical VIN#'s show up for example for a Yenko Camaro and both cars are matching #'s, course one being a restamped block, and with all the right components BE rear,etc, but neither having the rock solid paperwork, as Mark Hasset's car does, and the VIN is the only thing to go on for a verification of the cars authenticity? For example I really want a Hugger orange black stripe,Black Vinyl top 69 RS/Z, with orange houndstooth interior, and I know that my chances of finding this combo, is like none to impossible, but when I find the right car, I will just change the interior to my liking and leave the trim tag alone and represent the car for exactly what it is supposed to be! This trim tag re-stamping really bothers me, and it should everyone else! I would like to hear everyone else's thoughts on this, thanks.
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JTH...Trimtags.com has been around for quite awhile and I'm sure there are lots of cars being changed with trim tags to match but making a Trim tag is Legal. Making or selling a vin tag is a Felony so I doubt if you will see them doing that.
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I don't think that they would re-create a VIN tag,but it still leaves doubt in some peoples mind, just knowing that the capability is out there and it could be done. I just hate to see it get to a point where people would come to you at a show and discredit a rare supercar, or not believe it to be the real thing unless you have all the paperwork, POP, and other documents all the way back to new or original owner. I was in no way saying that these guys at trimtags.com would do that, for all I know they maybe the most honest people to deal with,and would have the integrity not to do VIN tags to fake a car, I was just saying it leaves doubt in some peoples mind just the know that the capability,ability and resources are out there to do it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
P.S. I was just using that as an example, and in no way did I mean to offend anyone if I did so. |
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From what I was told about TrimTags.com, you have to show some type of proof before they will make a tag. You can't just call and tell them you want a trim tag that has whatever info you want on it.
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From what I was told about TrimTags.com, you have to show some type of proof before they will make a tag. You can't just call and tell them you want a trim tag that has whatever info you want on it. James [/ QUOTE ] Check out their site... They advertise you can add or remove options and change color and such!! If they will do that why would they ask you for proof of the old one? www.trimtags.com/faq.html Look for the question "How do I know if I need a TRIM TAG?" |
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They will change color or interior color or trim such as standard/deluxe, but they want proof as they wont make a Lemans into a GTO, or an X44 standard Camaro into an X33 or X77 Z-28, etc, etc,. The concept they have is to allow an owner to replace a lost or damaged tag, or to change exterior or interior color. They wont make a plain jane into a musclecar if that is something that can be designated by the trim tag. I am not a big fan of what they are doing but from what I have read on other sites they are trying to not allow model fraud.
Thanks, Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img] P.S. I copied the following from their web site under "About Us"; Note: We don't have a problem changing paint codes, trim codes, convertible/vinyl top color codes, or option codes. We will not change "STYLE" numbers (i.e. convert Tempests into GTO's, Cutlass' into 442's, six cylinder cars into eight cylinder cars).
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I had restored a 69 L89 corvette with a rusted windshield frame and the vin tag was badly rusted (all #'s were still there) and had a new vin tag made at my customer's request. And the company I used to do it for me made every effort to verify the validity(SP?) of my request. First I needed a pencil tracing of the vin, second current copy of title and a written letter stating why I needed it signed by a notary public. After all that the vin was sent and was flawless.
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What a cool find.Congrats to Clint. I really like stories like that. I just don't understand some of the hard feelings. If someone really wanted this car and knew it was a Yenko they should have made an offer to the owner before the auction ended. Sellers can remove items for sale on e-bay before auction close. All the belly aching after the fact is in my opinion sour grapes if you know something is real and it is a deal you have to pay up before it is gone. The car is nationally advertised on e-bay and is fair game to who ever is willing to pay for it first. I am surprised this car lasted the entire auction, a lot of the rare cars like this and other musclecars end before auction close. I think that is great! A real Yenko for 8,800 with some hunting and prudent purchases you could be on your way to a a real nice car after it is restored. Who cares if the numbers don't match, a lot of Yenkos as well as other Super/Musclecars don't have their original drivetrains they were raced and thrashed on back in the day. Congrats again. There is still hope that some cool cars are not yet discovered.
This post was not in reply to the above post just my two cents. |
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