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I guess the old adage about there still being cars out there to find is true. However, personally I think it really isn't that good of a deal in the first place. Here is an interesting point that might not have been thought of. It appears that the car will need a restoration that will cost what the car is basically worth. Since the condition of the car and its' lack of the "pertinent" equip (BE rear, engine, all the COPO parts, trans, etc..) are going to have to be found, why would someone pay top dollar for the car in the first place when it is finished. I'm sure for the eventual possible asking price if the car is ever re-sold another more "complete" (read..more of that particulars cars VIN numbered/original components car can be had). My point is everyone will know the car is an "assembled," car either through scrounging the parts or ordering them from vendors. I sincerely doubt anyone in their right mind would do a complete NOS frameoff on this car, therefore it is going to be a "parts book" restoration. The purchaser can't re-list the car for sale without the people willing to pay 125k for a car knowing this. Therefore is it really a "good deal?" IMHO..."no" Still an interesting example showing "treasures" can still be found.
As an added comment about the auction itself..if Clint is "quickrod" or whatever the high bidder is then fine it is his car..if he isn't (again he hasn't posted he is...) and he realized that Brain was the next high bidder, isn't some integrity involved in not trying to buy the car until ALL ebay parties were contacted? Especially if Clint didn't even bid? Sure maybe for Ebay's purposes the "contract," is only valid with the ultimate "high bidder," but doesn't integrity come into play...If Clint is the high bidder, step up and say you are the person that is listed on Ebay as the winner..that would clear a lot of potential confusion. |
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Greg with labor costing what it does I would think that if someone like Brian Henderson who could do it right bought the car he would PROBABLY have the right money in it.
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Great find. Bet the car has an interesting history [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
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Thats a darn good perspective on it Greg.....
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This post has been a whirlwind today! Clint congrats on your find, hope it turns out great for you, and another possible Yenko find is great for the hobby and preservation of these great cars,but bashing each other over a car deal, when it can only cause hard feelings is absolutely insane, especially when you guys are going to see each other at shows and other functions for these cars! I think that Mr. Yenko was trying to look out for Mark Hasset's best interest when he thought the cars had the same VIN#'s, but I came across a website last night that really disturbs me and it should concern everyone else in this hobby,(www.trimtags.com), they restamp trim to your specifications, and they claim not re-stamp VIN tags, but if they can do trim tags, I know they have the ability to do VIN# tags, so what would stop them from or someone else paying these guys some big bucks to make these tags for a car, to say it was a Yenko, etc. What would the situation be if two identical VIN#'s show up for example for a Yenko Camaro and both cars are matching #'s, course one being a restamped block, and with all the right components BE rear,etc, but neither having the rock solid paperwork, as Mark Hasset's car does, and the VIN is the only thing to go on for a verification of the cars authenticity? For example I really want a Hugger orange black stripe,Black Vinyl top 69 RS/Z, with orange houndstooth interior, and I know that my chances of finding this combo, is like none to impossible, but when I find the right car, I will just change the interior to my liking and leave the trim tag alone and represent the car for exactly what it is supposed to be! This trim tag re-stamping really bothers me, and it should everyone else! I would like to hear everyone else's thoughts on this, thanks.
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JTH...Trimtags.com has been around for quite awhile and I'm sure there are lots of cars being changed with trim tags to match but making a Trim tag is Legal. Making or selling a vin tag is a Felony so I doubt if you will see them doing that.
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I don't think that they would re-create a VIN tag,but it still leaves doubt in some peoples mind, just knowing that the capability is out there and it could be done. I just hate to see it get to a point where people would come to you at a show and discredit a rare supercar, or not believe it to be the real thing unless you have all the paperwork, POP, and other documents all the way back to new or original owner. I was in no way saying that these guys at trimtags.com would do that, for all I know they maybe the most honest people to deal with,and would have the integrity not to do VIN tags to fake a car, I was just saying it leaves doubt in some peoples mind just the know that the capability,ability and resources are out there to do it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
P.S. I was just using that as an example, and in no way did I mean to offend anyone if I did so. |
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From what I was told about TrimTags.com, you have to show some type of proof before they will make a tag. You can't just call and tell them you want a trim tag that has whatever info you want on it.
James
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From what I was told about TrimTags.com, you have to show some type of proof before they will make a tag. You can't just call and tell them you want a trim tag that has whatever info you want on it. James [/ QUOTE ] Check out their site... They advertise you can add or remove options and change color and such!! If they will do that why would they ask you for proof of the old one? www.trimtags.com/faq.html Look for the question "How do I know if I need a TRIM TAG?" |
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I had restored a 69 L89 corvette with a rusted windshield frame and the vin tag was badly rusted (all #'s were still there) and had a new vin tag made at my customer's request. And the company I used to do it for me made every effort to verify the validity(SP?) of my request. First I needed a pencil tracing of the vin, second current copy of title and a written letter stating why I needed it signed by a notary public. After all that the vin was sent and was flawless.
Rich. |
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