Apology to Chevy Supercar purists - Page 3

camarojoe · #21 11-10-2003, 02:46 AM

Hey LV, Are those the rare Ram Air VII wheels? Are they listed on the build sheet as "Memo" by chance? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

LVCamaro · #22 11-10-2003, 02:47 AM

For pics/details of that Camaro, click on the July, 2003 Feature Car of this website home page. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/

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LVCamaro · #23 11-10-2003, 02:52 AM

Probably the very first '68 Ram Air GTO with 18" factory Budniks and Vintage A/C. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img]

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Steve_Hoog · #24 11-10-2003, 03:03 AM

It's very nice too, I'm partail to the Goat but my GF digs the Camaro.

I want to apologize also for mixing up Pontiac chatter in your Chevy forum. I do have a Big Block Vette if that helps? It's just a working mans race car, not one of these Supercars you all seem to be so fortunate to have but a Chevy none the less.

55chevy · #25 11-10-2003, 03:58 AM

I added to it... so I can't bitch.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

JoeC · #26 11-10-2003, 12:17 PM

64 GTO is a cool car and should get credit as a leader in Muscle car history but I think the 1963 421 Tempest was a real hot rod and should get more credit as first muscle car. Although it was low volume, it fits muscle car definition as small car with big engine as compared to the '63 Z-11 big car big engine. (musclebarge)

**olredalert** · #27 11-10-2003, 02:38 PM

JoeC,

------Yes the 63 Tempest 421s were very fast cars and set in motion things to come.However,as delivered,they were definetly not useable for much of anything.The rope driveshaft and transmission-rear end set up were woefully inept for almost any use.I dont know of any racer that could keep one together,or make one run in as delivered condition.Arnie B told me one time that he just shook his head the first time he looked underneath one,and we all know what he did to his almost immediatly upon recieving it.
------I have a friend who had a brand new 326 3spd (only standard trans available) convertible and his was always in the shop for one drivetrain problem or another.That engine was 250hp.Can you imagine what the 421 would do.I know the trans was upgraded but,as delivered it wasnt near enough!
-----They are a great looking little car though and when modified with the correct trans location and rear-end they make for a great package..........Bill S

JoeC · #28 11-10-2003, 02:56 PM

Bill,
That trans set up was ahead of its time but did have some problems.
Do you know what trans set up was used on the Ray Nicklos 421 Tempest that won the race at Daytona Speed Weeks 1963. It beat the 427 Corvette MKII, Ferraris and other exotic cars. AJ Foyt was second in a Z06.

Eddie M. · #29 11-10-2003, 07:04 PM

Beings I was riding bicycle's around the time of those cool cars. that thread was a great history lesson for me [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img]

**olredalert** · #30 11-10-2003, 09:58 PM

JoeC,

-----I remember the car and the race,but dont remember the configuration of the Tempest.I would be interested to know.Would have been a cool race to experience.
-----Right around that era I did go to the Sebring 12hr(I think I was 15 or so) and actually held Donna Mae Mims up on the wall to watch the start.That made such an impression on me I have forgotten what Don was racing that year!........Bill S

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