1970 gto judge ram air IV

[Steve_Hoog]

A whole bunch more jaw flappin has gone on in here while I was at Church.

What I appreciate, people like Mike who can have a simple disscussion with an open mind. He wasn't trying to ram Jim Wanger of Pete down my thoat, the guy was actually trying to help. The truth is all I'm after, and I mean the exact truth. This does not mean Pete, Jim's, or Joe Bob's opinion.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Jim M worked for Chevy, Jim W left an advertising agency in 69 that contracted with Pontiac, and Pete worked for a phone company? Is that right? So neither of these guys were around Pontiac when the controversial car was actually built, interesting. And neither of them actually ever worked for Pontiac, wow!!!! Is that a shocker if my information is correct.

Last Winter Jim W was in Tulsa, and made a trip to Gary's house. Gary is the owner of the Judge in question. Gary probably has a dozen 69 TA's, with 4 in is top shelf garage. 2=RA, 1=RAIV, 1=RAV. The hood was up on the RAV, and Gary asked Jim "what do you think of that motor?" and Jim replied "well, what is it?" Ok, something is wrong with that. By the way; this TA has cast iron manifolds, so make the count two if anyone was counting those.

Where are the engineering logs?

Dajudge... your car is to good for a grudge match on the track, no problem. Change your mind or get another car, bring it on.

[mrmuscle]

i had assumed all along that the car (one of them) in question belonged to gary. as for driving rare cars, i was at a all pontiac drag and car show a few years back and watched gary get booed by a bunch of "enthusiasts" for smoking his tires all the way down the track in a true documented frame off totally restored 69 trans am convertible. it was one of the coolest things i have ever seen. (anyone get a video of that). i know a guy who knows him and he said he had a few friends over and they took the trans am convertible out and took turns doing burnoffs and seeing who could get the longest second gear rubber in it. i am surprised he let jim wangers come over. i have heard he has a select few friends that ever get to see any of his cars.

[Steve_Hoog]

HAHA you don't know how true that is... Gary also has a dozen or so 71 Judges, one of them is a documented 4 speed convertable. I've seen him burning the **** out of those tires and even cutting a donut.