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Allen, I agree completely that it is the seller that is the problem and not the car.As the prices escalate the temptation to misrepresent a car increases. One L78 car that I looked at had a build sheet that matched the cowl tag, but the rivets had been drilled and the tag epoxied in place. The next was an L34 car that had great documentation, but NOM and the seller stated that the supposed original motor that came with the deal was "the one that came with the car when he bought it."-he would not clearly say that it was the original motor. Smart about the car when necessary and suddenly brain dead when the important questions were asked. Last L78 car was freshly restored with docs, and seller told me all I had to do was to install the V.I.N. plate from the documented donor car to make it complete(just a felony [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img])The 70 L78 that was for sale here at $26,500 is now at Legendary for $42,000.As the prices go up, the need to know what you are buying is even more important.
I know you like Novas, I think what I was trying to say was that you set the bar high when someone says something like "completely restored SS".That is a good thing. I learn something new every time I read one of these nit picking lists.(even though I wince and am glad its not my car you are discussing. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] ) So the Cranberry Red car met the reserve at $16,000. And in the final minutes the high bid disappeared, it dropped to a non-reserve price of $15,000. The seller ended the auction early. Its almost impossible to retract a bid in the final 12 hours before an auction closes.Maybe its easier if you are retracting a bid on your own auction! |
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In summing up that long-winded statement..... it's not the cars that are the problems.... it's the seller and how they represent them. A seller who appears to be deceitful, or makes inaccurate statements..... they subject themselves to more negative attention. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] Well said Allen |
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I don't normally participate in the process but this one is too much to pass up. Novas, especially the ones with big motors are of special interest to me and therefore I offer this advice. If you see a car you like find out as much as possible upfront, and if it still sounds good then go and see it. If you are not an expert then take along someone who is. This is the only real way to make an informed buying decision. I don't know how anyone can consider making a serious purchase without examining the goods. Ultimately every car speaks for it self. We may not want to face it but the truth is always there you just have to look closely and use common sense.Don"t get lost in the internet house fo mirrors. Remember, nobody can fake everything on a car there is always a mistake. The "real cars" are sold by "real people". End of story.
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Very well said, you guys are right - it's the seller not the car. I like almost every Nova that is discussed, just like Allen states, but nobody likes to be 'taken' on something.
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We should learn and embrace (not bash)those that provide and offer their intimate knowledge of these car, such as restorers, enthusiasts and yes judges. Each of us has much to learn and I for one appreciate the information presented on this board. Some might find it critical, I find it most enlightening.
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Shut up and go back to your Yankees Paceme........ [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Charley, that was an awesome game. Talk about a competitive series...the curse continues... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]
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Steve Shauger The Supercar Registry www.yenko.net Vintage Certification™ , Providing Recognition to Unrestored Muscle Cars. Website: www.vintagecertification.com |