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Old 10-16-2003, 02:15 AM
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JoeC is right on the money, I have spoken to several original Yenko Camaro owners as well and several have mentioned that they thought the Yenko hood stripes were Z28's. Then when they were passing it by, they noticed the '427' on the hood and stopped for a second look. After the test drive they were filling out the paperwork!

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Old 10-16-2003, 03:26 AM
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I have a couple cars pre-owned by Italians and I always found small pieces of Mortadella, a little Prosciutto and Provolone between the seats so I think Sixtiesmuscle must be right...Italians = coolest ,fastest cars and big Italian sangwiches [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif[/img] Yo Adrienne
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Old 10-16-2003, 11:09 AM
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Belair,

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Old 10-17-2003, 12:37 AM
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Will one of these BEASTS(69 SYC Nova) be making some passes at SCR7? Don Yenko claimed 0-60 in the 4 second range! Thats what I call quick, if that is true I don't think any other supercar from that era will have anything for that! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img] Kevin the cars looked AWESOME at Pigeon Forge, has the Nova been restored since you have owned it, it really stood tall among some great supercars! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/[/img]
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Old 10-17-2003, 04:40 AM
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I know the Don Yenko quote that the 427 Novas were "A beast, it was almost lethal", and he goes on to say that the Camaros and Chevelles were heavier and not quite the performers that the Nova was. It is a great legend, and it hurts to question it since I am such a huge Nova fan, but the data seems to contradict the legend. The weight of a V8 69 Camaro was 3105 lbs, while the V8 69 Nova was 3175 lbs.
The data is side by side on the same page of the 1969 service manual. So I just don't see any reason that the 427 Nova would have been quicker than the similar Camaro. Comments?
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Old 10-17-2003, 08:47 AM
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Thats kind of a tough one.. Because weights can vary car to car. There is no doubt that the 69 Camaro and Nova were real damn close in the weight department. Especially sharing much of the same hardware. But the Nova being a couple inches longer.. (I'm not sure which is wider).. But then it comes down to which model had the beefier shell.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] Judging on perfomance figures from each car (L72 powered)in past magazine articles and seeing them perform live and what not.. I'd say average for both would be mid to low 13's at 105-108 mph. Fair guess?? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
So what I'm thinking is that if Yenko did have a test 427 Nova run an "accurate" 0-60 in 4 secs or less, That baby was no STOCK L72. Because that's getting into 427 AC Cobra territory and how much do they weigh? 2500lbs or so soaking wet with a full tank of gas and a fat guy riding shotgun?
And here's the final kicker with that quote from Yenko.. Now don't get me wrong and don't bash on me because you all know how much I LOOOOOOVEE YENKO Novas [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img], but you can't argue with these facts.. I've got a Road Test article of a 69 Baldwin/Motion Phase III SS427 Nova, which we ALL know would not have ANY problems showing a Yenko 427 Nova it's ass end... This thing is built to the hilt as we know all B/M phase III machines to be and here are the perfomance figures from this Nova.
0-30 -- 2.8 sec
0-60 -- 5.1 sec
standing 1/4 mile -- 11.88 sec @ 115 mph
top speed -- 125 mph (est)
fuel consumption -- 6-11 mpg

The Red Yenko 427 Nova that Supercars owns that was featured in Guide To Muscle Cars Magazine many years ago now.. the article that made those quotes famous where "0-60 in under 4 sec and the car running 10.90s in the 1/4". Those were either exagerated numbers or that car had some MAJOR work done to it when it ran those times. Now don't get me wrong because I'm not bashing that Nova one bit.. As a matter of fact I fell in love with that Nova YEARS ago.. Even before Kevin owned it. And I built this (It's a model of Kevin's 427 Yenko Nova. Pics too large to attach. Email me if you want to see pics of it. I tried attaching them...) as a tribute to that car some 13-14 years ago.

There is no doubt a 427 Nova is a beast. But who's to say which is the fastest??

Kevin.. You own and have drivin most of these machines we've been discussing... Which one is the fastest and strongest one? Which one are you SCARED of? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img] Thats the question.. Because THAT'S the one I want to ride in. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

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Old 10-17-2003, 12:32 PM
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Hey Schoneye; I checked that sheet with the reference to Kevin's wheels, and it indeed says F70x14 tires. So, that leads me to believe that they changed the tires also on that car - probably to RWL like the other '69 Yenko cars. Looks like Kevin can go either way with that one!

I have some very early pics of K.Hand's '69 Yenko Nova that rowdyrat obtained, looks like steelies - but maybe with trim rings installed also. The car also has the SS on the tail panel (off-center) and front grille. I can't see the front fenders in these pics to tell which marker light bezel is installed.
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Old 10-17-2003, 12:41 PM
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Ed,

We took the SCCA '69 vette out to the dragstrip in Tulsa one time to sort out a shifter problem and it went 11:40 at 119 mph in full roadrace trim (10.5" front 11.5" wide rear - hard road racing slicks) Shifted to 4th just before the line and made the first turnoff too...! (Doubt many cars can do that at that speed) and no I didn't have to lock the brakes to do it either. In fact I got in trouble for going too fast back down the return road... (grin)

That was a small block .. (4:10 gear - 350ci- 6" Corrillo Rods - chev offroad cam-cast iron, angle plug heads-stahl headers-dry sump oiling system-m-22 trans-single 800cfm Holley carb)

So those times that they showed back then, sound reasonable to me. My '66 425hp stock vette went 11:90's at 110 mph. On MT cheater slicks.
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Old 10-17-2003, 02:23 PM
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Hey Marlin, care to share those pics with the rest of us? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] We need to go start having some fun like that again Larry. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
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