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Bill Hunter at many SC Reunions.
Original owner of his DY Yenko Camaro. Great guy,and his story is incredible.I would listen to him if he were reading the phone book. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] |
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Those yenko novas bring out the best, positive, and most informative posts, don't they? Not to mention funny at times, Mike! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/
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Will one of these BEASTS(69 SYC Nova) be making some passes at SCR7? Don Yenko claimed 0-60 in the 4 second range! Thats what I call quick, if that is true I don't think any other supercar from that era will have anything for that! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img] Kevin the cars looked AWESOME at Pigeon Forge, has the Nova been restored since you have owned it, it really stood tall among some great supercars! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/
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I know the Don Yenko quote that the 427 Novas were "A beast, it was almost lethal", and he goes on to say that the Camaros and Chevelles were heavier and not quite the performers that the Nova was. It is a great legend, and it hurts to question it since I am such a huge Nova fan, but the data seems to contradict the legend. The weight of a V8 69 Camaro was 3105 lbs, while the V8 69 Nova was 3175 lbs.
The data is side by side on the same page of the 1969 service manual. So I just don't see any reason that the 427 Nova would have been quicker than the similar Camaro. Comments? |
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Thats kind of a tough one.. Because weights can vary car to car. There is no doubt that the 69 Camaro and Nova were real damn close in the weight department. Especially sharing much of the same hardware. But the Nova being a couple inches longer.. (I'm not sure which is wider).. But then it comes down to which model had the beefier shell.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] Judging on perfomance figures from each car (L72 powered)in past magazine articles and seeing them perform live and what not.. I'd say average for both would be mid to low 13's at 105-108 mph. Fair guess?? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
So what I'm thinking is that if Yenko did have a test 427 Nova run an "accurate" 0-60 in 4 secs or less, That baby was no STOCK L72. Because that's getting into 427 AC Cobra territory and how much do they weigh? 2500lbs or so soaking wet with a full tank of gas and a fat guy riding shotgun? And here's the final kicker with that quote from Yenko.. Now don't get me wrong and don't bash on me because you all know how much I LOOOOOOVEE YENKO Novas [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img], but you can't argue with these facts.. I've got a Road Test article of a 69 Baldwin/Motion Phase III SS427 Nova, which we ALL know would not have ANY problems showing a Yenko 427 Nova it's ass end... This thing is built to the hilt as we know all B/M phase III machines to be and here are the perfomance figures from this Nova. 0-30 -- 2.8 sec 0-60 -- 5.1 sec standing 1/4 mile -- 11.88 sec @ 115 mph top speed -- 125 mph (est) fuel consumption -- 6-11 mpg The Red Yenko 427 Nova that Supercars owns that was featured in Guide To Muscle Cars Magazine many years ago now.. the article that made those quotes famous where "0-60 in under 4 sec and the car running 10.90s in the 1/4". Those were either exagerated numbers or that car had some MAJOR work done to it when it ran those times. Now don't get me wrong because I'm not bashing that Nova one bit.. As a matter of fact I fell in love with that Nova YEARS ago.. Even before Kevin owned it. And I built this (It's a model of Kevin's 427 Yenko Nova. Pics too large to attach. Email me if you want to see pics of it. I tried attaching them...) as a tribute to that car some 13-14 years ago. There is no doubt a 427 Nova is a beast. But who's to say which is the fastest?? Kevin.. You own and have drivin most of these machines we've been discussing... Which one is the fastest and strongest one? Which one are you SCARED of? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img] Thats the question.. Because THAT'S the one I want to ride in. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ ![]()
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Ed,
We took the SCCA '69 vette out to the dragstrip in Tulsa one time to sort out a shifter problem and it went 11:40 at 119 mph in full roadrace trim (10.5" front 11.5" wide rear - hard road racing slicks) Shifted to 4th just before the line and made the first turnoff too...! (Doubt many cars can do that at that speed) and no I didn't have to lock the brakes to do it either. In fact I got in trouble for going too fast back down the return road... (grin) That was a small block .. (4:10 gear - 350ci- 6" Corrillo Rods - chev offroad cam-cast iron, angle plug heads-stahl headers-dry sump oiling system-m-22 trans-single 800cfm Holley carb) So those times that they showed back then, sound reasonable to me. My '66 425hp stock vette went 11:90's at 110 mph. On MT cheater slicks. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ ![]()
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] We need to go start having some fun like that again Larry. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
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yes it was gone through from top to bottom by ricky smith restorations, ararat, va.. we corrected the grille (correct 9 ribbed instead of 13 NOS in the box), eyebrows, tach and other small items during the re-resto, compliments to brian henderson at the supercar workshop on some of the details.
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