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Old 08-27-2003, 01:38 AM
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Here is a shot of the area above the tag that was not damaged too bad in the rearend wreck it suffered.
You can see where there was something there at one time. I can feel the bondo on the backside where it came through.
I have the paint stripped on this car but not final sanded yet or primed back.
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Old 09-02-2003, 01:43 PM
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Just to update those that are interested. Met Joel and what a nice guy. He was answering my question about how many Phase III GT's were made when he said that a white car was sold to a rich guy in Dallas. I perked up when he said that and he added that it had been totaled and didn't exist anymore. He proceded to tell me that the guys son had called him and said he totaled the car. He said he remembered "Lawler" ordering the "FASTEST" thing that Motion could make. I about had a heartattack right there. I then told him that that was the name on the bill of sale that I had found in the glove box of the vette that I bought in Dallas back in '75. he was suprised to hear that it was not a total and did indead still exist.
I will post a pic of this car. Sure felt good to know he at least remembered one of my cars. I will be sending him pic's of my other car just as soon as I can find someone that can verify if it was a TH400 when it was at the NY Auto show.
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Old 09-02-2003, 05:38 PM
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Larry,
It was very nice meeting you and talking with you in length Friday night. Sorry that my eyes were getting heavy. We also very much enjoyed looking at all those 70's photos you had. Not one but two!!! Motion Vettes sitting together in some of the pictures! If we could only go back in time! I am sure once you have a chance to go over it with Joel, you will likely worry much less about your retirement. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] See you next year at SCR07 or at VetteFest.
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Old 09-03-2003, 12:16 AM
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Everybody was so nice to me. I am sure that some think I am a real flaky guy but that is just me. I have always been interested in cars and can remember seeing so many cars here in Tulsa over the years. I remember 2 of the TA camaro's sitting in the front end allingment shop on 15th street back in '68. There was a Nasua blue ZL-1 or L-88 vette sitting in a auto parts store parking lot when it was new. I remember wanting a Motion Vette like the one on the cover of the Cars magazine. You just can't inagine the excitement when I actually had a chance to buy that very same car years later. I only wish that I had been able to just park it instead of using it like it was intended and driving it and winning FTD and FTOD at autocrosses. The first time I beat a FF in a autocross on the first run off the trailer was a real charge.

Now years later, after I have had to force myself to ignore these cars and try to get myself out of debt do to additiction to racing (SCCA) which is like drugs & drinking both at the same time. To meet all the neat people at this event was just wonderful. I am really fired up to get these cars back in good shape.

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Larry,
I had a great time with you at the show. Even though I felt like a chicken running around with my head chopped off... (every time I heard a big block fire up... I was making a bee-line toward it with my camara... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif[/img]) But we got to spend some good time together talking and drooling over the cars. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] I hope I get a chance to see those diamonds in the rough up close and all your other toys as well. Let me know if you need a hand.. I love getting my hands dirty and got the experience to do it as well. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] btw, I found a place on the way home that had gas for $1.54/gal.. so I saved a penny over your place.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 09-05-2003, 07:20 PM
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Good News....! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img] Finally....!!! I found out today the
answers to the last few questionable things that were still unanswered
about my '69 Motion car. One was the side louvers having wire mesh
behind them. I got some time to go to the shop and check to see if my
car has the mesh and it did. When I first got my car the Motion gas
cap had been molded in with bondo. (This was not a good idea as the
bondo would crack the paint when you put gas in the car) With my heavy
Motion gas cap removed you can see the holes that were drilled in the
deck/gas door area for the Motion cap to fit and the remaining bondo all
around the gas door area to make it fit flush.

And NOW .... Last but not least, the most important item was if the
car in the auto show was a TH-400 or not? Well, earlier today I found
a magazine article on the http://www.motionperformance.com/motion.html
(go to the old magazine articles and it is at the very bottom) website
that shows a rear shot of the back of Joel's car's rear window that
shows the gas cap molded in and if you click on the pic of just the car,
it will blow up bigger and you can clearly see the automatic shift knob
with the little chrome button on top through the back window.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img] BOY O'BOY ........! Am I ever excited ..!!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif[/img] That was the final and most important Item that I needed to
re-assure myself that for the last 30 years, I do indeed own the very
same car as the car in the pictures in the Magazine articles.

With every picture that has been published of Joel's car, and that I
have been able to find and compare my car to the old magazine articles
of that time, and the statement from Marty Schorr that it was the same
color as my car and not red like it looks on the cover of his Car's
magazine. Combined with the info from the original tank build sheet,
showing it originally came from Baldwin Chev when new.

Finally...!!! I feel confident that this was his first Phase III GT. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
I guess it is now time to send Joel some $$.

Thanks to all of you for your interest help and support.

Pantera
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Old 09-05-2003, 08:15 PM
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Larry, good work, Sounds like you have enough info to go to Joel R. Maybe he will have some type of work order or other paper for it.
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Phase III GT at New York ? auto Show [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Old 10-30-2003, 01:45 PM
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Cool pic. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] Looks like a '69 Motion Camaro was present as well, I can see black hockeysticks and sport mirrors. Wish I could see more clearly, but it looks like those could be my Rocket Racing SS427 valve covers on that display engine in the back. Hmm... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/[/img]
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Old 10-30-2003, 01:50 PM
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Zora [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] and Joel [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] and phase III GT [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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