2- 2002 camaro ss converts new on mso

[JoeG]

Hi Frank,
Are sales off because they need some fresh styling???
I wonder if GM did, what ford did with their 56 style Thunderbird with a modern twist, use the '68 or 69 camaro base style and give it a modern twist, if that would give GM a new platform to branch out with fresh ideas for style???--Just a thought.--- Do you know what will go into the Camaro slot???- I know I'm just full of questions today [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]--JoeG

[MosportGreen66]

If only! I wish Jon Moss would stop built 650HP 1998 Camaro Coupes and get busy on a Retro-1969 Z28! I agree, that would be cool!

[hvychev]

Joe you are right on. IMO the tired style of the 4th gen Camaro hurt sales. They had the same style from 1993-2002 and many buyers became tired of it. GM has the tendency to keep body styles around for to long. Car companies like Damiler Chrysler are on the cutting edge on constant style change. The Ford Mustang continues to put up the numbers like the 79 Camaro did which suprises me because they lack in performance. The 2005 Mustang coming out will be a hit.

[JoeC]

I don't think the new Thunderbird sales are doing very well either.

[JoeG]

JoeC,
The up-dated styling of the T-bird just catches my eye ,but never inquired, if there was a performance package, or was it just set up for leisurely touring for mid-life crissis guys like myself---maybe if Chevy presented performance options, to make it affordable at different performance levels,[ to the Masses-]---Really hate to see the camaro shelved First Oldsmobile, Camaro.next????-- [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]---JoeG -as someone mentioned earlier a 69 retro Z28 Road suspension/ performance package, might convert some new generation ricers to the original "Heartbeat of America"---Chevrolet---JoeG [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img]---- [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

Price of retro T-bird?-----Any performance or road handling packages?

[Belair62]

The new T-Birds are kind of weird.They took bits of styling from several different years and at first you couldn't get one.Now I see them on a lot of dealer lots.

[Chris396]

The new T-birds are too slow. I saw a new red Mach 1 today and I like it. The Mustang still looks Mustangish.

[82z96ss]

the camaro went a restyle every ten years, and added body pieces every five. GM needs to do what the imports do, have a design for 5 to 6 years then redo it. It keeps the attraction and value up.

My two cents anyway.

[JoeG]

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The Mustang still looks Mustangish.

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Chris396,
I personally think you are looking thru the eyes of the car enthusiast on the street, which I think is correct.----MUSTANG stood the automotive world on it's ear with it's fresh styling----the intial stlying kind of lost it's way in the 80'IMO ,but Ford has slowly gotten back to the "C" frame shape of the 60's-----IDENTITY---if you took all the emblems off the new mustang and new camaro and then compared them to old 60's photo's ,you wouldn't need emblems for the MUSTANG to recognize it---just like the Corvette---no matter how they modernized styling the Corvette and Mustang kept their identity in-tact------IMO I always thought the Camaro tried to be a new Mustang with their new design and just kind of pushed the styling that got them there, completely away--I know a lot of you fellas are saying I'm full of crap, but that's OK because we're just kicking some ideas around---when you get a chance look thru some old photos of Mustangs--Camaros--Corvettes and it makes you think Maybe Ford does have it's finger on the pulse of the car enthusiast---- especially with their new performance[Total Package handling/styling/performance--You Gets Your Moneys Worth].--Yes I am a CHEVY-MAN. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]--JoeG [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

[MosportGreen66]

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JoeC,
if there was a performance package

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JoeC,

I am almost positive that the Saleen company was toying with the idea of a hotrod(ed) thunderbird. I will try to find the article.

-Dan