73 Baldwin Motion Phase III SS 427 Chevelle

[COPO]

I was thinking 1971 was the final year of Baldwin-Motion cars and the 1972 model years were just Motion cars.

[TimG]

I have all Cars issues for 1972 & 1973.

[JoeC]

Oct 72 Cars Magazine still has the grave stone ad for a 72 454 Motion Camaro and has Baldwin Chevy listed. In the 1973 ads it just has only Motion so that's why I think it was some where late 72 early 73 for Baldwin Chevy closing.

[Seattle Sam]

You might want to adjust that by a couple of months, most magazines go to print well before the issue date. Note that you are receiving your July issues of various magazines in the mail now...and the layout was probably completed for them by the first of May.
-Sam

[hvychev]

Joe you have a Motion Monte SS?

[SuperCars]

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I was thinking 1971 was the final year of Baldwin-Motion cars and the 1972 model years were just Motion cars.

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Charlie, somehow this sounds backwards. I would prefer to say, prior to 72(73?), most MOTION cars built by Joel Rosen had sales orders through Baldwin Chevrolet; but 99.9% of the cars Baldwin Chevrolet sold, were "just" ordinary Baldwin cars.

To answer the other Charleys comment: "Is there a NICB on this car"? No, and I haven't tried to obtain one. Through the letters of correspondence and Motion invoices, this was a new car order; built by MOTION. Specifically, it was NOT a new car sent to MOTION by an outside customer/dealer for conversion.

I keep saying a Harrell car is significant/valuable by Harrell's handiwork; not by which Dealer Harrell obtained the car from. I just realize myself, as a collector that is willing to pay out the money for them, the primary significance/value of a Motion Car is through Joel and Motion Performance.

As I own many Baldwin sold MOTION cars, I am not trying to dis-credit Baldwin Chevrolet, it is just the thought process of Motion Cars is backwards by many. A funny thought, as I hope some of you aren't suggesting: "why build a 2002 Motion Camaro as Baldwin is closed"?? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

[COPO]

Kevin, I think you mis-interpreted my use of the word "just", many people (mostly uninformed) refer to all Motion cars as "Baldwin Motion". I agree with you on all points that the value of the cars is mostly attributable to Motion, Harrell, etc. That being said, if two Motion cars of the same year, condition, options, etc. one sold through Baldwin Chev. and one sold at another dealer, the Baldwin Motion car would certainly be more desireable and hence more valuable. Once Baldwin shut down, it is mute. The Chevelle in question is a great car and the paperwork on it is stellar. Good luck on the sale. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

[JoeG]

SuperCars,
Never thought, tried to imply or said that it wasn't an original documented PhaseIII SS-427.-----Nice example of Motion Magic.----JoeG ---[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

[JoeG]

SuperCars,
Last year a parts store?-- can't remember the state[ east?]---Anyway this parts store had an Hone-Overdrive [300] new in the box --$1500--I called to buy it but he said he was waiting for a fella ,who called first & had a motion car, to call back---when I called him back he told me the fella with the Motion car bought the unit----Could you be that Motion-fella?----JoeG[early-bird I am not--the worms are safe]

[SuperCars]

Charlie, no problem here; I'm just trying to express what is most significant for a MOTION car. You are right when people (mostly uninformed) don't realize what a MOTION car is; unless it came from Baldwin. Although I have only MOTION documents for my 73 Chevelle, it appears this car could have come through Baldwin, as Joel's letter says. But in reference to any Baldwin MOTION car, the sad part is that Baldwin did nothing except write up a sales order.

JoeG, No sweat, I didn't think you or anyone for that matter, was trying to say anything negative about my 73 Phase III Chevelle. It is an awesome, impeccable and documented car that I hope no one buys; as I wish to have a MOTION collection that is second to none. Also I wasn't the one that bought the hone-o-drive. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]