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Old 01-03-2003, 05:09 PM
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I wouldn't be too hard on him Marlin...he qualified it by saying it was the nicest "he" has ever seen...I'm not sure how many he has seen...but he hasn't seen mine !!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img] Remember when everything was "mint" !!!
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Old 01-03-2003, 05:17 PM
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I understand Bob, I'm not trying to give anyone a hard time - just give props to those cars/owners that have earned the terminology. Otherwise, every car with a pretty paint job is the nicest one out there - Kevin knows how a factory paint job should look from his yellow car; runs, fades, porosity, etc... and that's probably the best car he owns!


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I've seen some pretty knowledgable judges at Vettefest...why do you discount them ?
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I've seen just the opposite, I guess it's in the perspective and personal experience. I was actually surprised at the judging at VF, I thought they would be more thorough - but then I remember my own judging experiences, I couldn't wait to be done with it, it's a thankless job. Maybe I just happened to be there on bad years, or maybe the Nova judges aren't the same as the other marques. I know Deisner is a knowledgeable judge for the Camaros, and I'm sure the other types of cars also have good judges. So, I'll qualify my prior statement to pertain only to the Nova judges - trying to stay out of hot water [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

In my experience the best judging gets done by the individual clubs. What I consider 'the best judging' is when you get to know the club, the judges and your car a little better after the results are in. I know I learn something new about my car each time I go to the Nova Nationals, mainly from the guys who do the judging or have been around for 'a long' time. Lanny of NNN-Indy is one of those types of judges.
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The more I thought about the the more I realized you were right. Thats why I don't bother going thru the hassle of showing there anymore.I saw a car that wasn't even cleaned up very well,dirty tires,floor mats etc. take a Top Gun award !
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Kevin;
I didn't intend to un-compliment you or your cars, but you can't really justify making comments on cars you haven't seen! Furthermore, when people read your opinion on a car, that can be misleading when you haven't judged the car, or had it judged by the appropriate party.

I know you're just givin props to various club members, but if you haven't seen the car or lack the appropriate knowledge to give the props - it's just words. No backlash from me, just tryin to figure out where your coming from, that's all.
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i'm coming from greensboro, nc. i am sorry i've offended you, lets keep this off the site!
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simply expressing an opinion, not a judges opinion! i am definitely not the guru or claim to be.
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I'm lost [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif[/img] Is my COPO the nicest or not? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Lets face it, noone can judge a car but the owner. Its the only opinion that matters.
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Dave;
You are correct, what's nice or not is in the eye of the beholder. What's 'the best' is also a subjective opinion. That's why a couple of rounds through a Diamond level judging situation is helpful. I know a lot of people who have purchased 'the 1,000 pt' car based on people's opinions, only to find out later that the car falls flat at the Diamond level.

I'm not referring to Novas here either, even though I own one (er, two!). The NNN does not have the Diamond level type of judging, so for us, it is imperative that we put the car through a few rounds of judging in order to get a complete perspective of the quality of the restoration.

I know that I got my butt handed to me on some areas of my car during this years NNN judging. Some of it was correct, other items were just things that I believe are correct and the judges disagreed. All part of the learning curve, and my first place showing is only because of the cars that showed up for that particular show. If some other cars had been there that I know are better than mine, I might not have even placed! So, my statements are referring to cars in general, not Dave's Chevelle, my Yenko, or anyone elses ride.
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it is one of the best, in my opinion! i am not a judge though, dave (deuce king)
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