Fastest Musclecar?

[55chevy]

The '64 A/FX lightweight 427 Falcon was built to, I believe, run down Thunderbolts and Hemi Darts and Barracudas and hand their ass back to them.. I believe less than a handfull were built but they were done the same way the Thunderbolt was. So they would be considered factory as well.

[MotownMadman]

If we are considering non titled factory race cars as the Dart, you are absolutly correct, except the Falcon was a 65 and it was fiberglass. In 64 Dyno Don ran a factory Prepared A/FX Comet which set NHRA records. Dons best time was 10:56, the falcon turned in a best time of 9:80. In retrospect to these factory prepared cars I am now of the opinion that they should not be included in the fastest musclecar catagory as they were not allowed for street use. So guys, what is the quickest delivered from factory to dealer to customer, not including dealer built cars? Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

[Chevy454]

This is gonna hard to pin down. What sources should we use? Old road tests? Original onwer stories? Current owner's experiences?

I noticed a few things on the list above, which has made it's way around the internet and in many mags. First off, the trap speed on the '68 Biscayne test, which is listed as 105, is wrong: it trapped over 108. Oddly, whoever made up the first list didn't read the article (which we have) which states this fact, but instead they posted the incorrect 105 number, and this got error got regurgitated. Also, there was an L-72 Chevelle tested that ran a 13.31@108+ which is absent from the list. The same mag that tested the previous 3 cars (SS&DI) tested an L-72 Camaro, but started with headers, which pushed it easily into the twelves (the Biscyane and Chevelle test were done bone stock without turning even a wrench). So, it seems an L-72 equipped steel bodied car was good for REALLY low 13s at better than 108mph, and a Corvette would put it into the 12s with a huge mph. Also worth noting is the L-88 Corvette in the test, which was equipped with 3.36 gears and an automatic. Talk about mismatched equipment...there's nothing much worse than a huge cam (power range was listed as 4,400-7,000) coupled with a low stall (2,200rpm) converter coupled with hi-way gears. It's impressive it still ran a [email protected] imagine if it was a 4-speed with some decent gears? Oh, and it would be safe to say a ZL-1 Corvette would have knocked a tenth or two off of the ZL-1 Camaro's time just due to the lighter weight.

Now, carry on!

[Norm reynolds]

Rob I have to agree with you That it is real hard to say what was the fastest
The hemi dart was not a factory built car. There was a lot of cars built at the factory that
Would move . but as far as what was the fastest out of the box ??? Depends on who did the testing.
First you could have a killer car and have some one that does not know how to drive it
So you would see this car at the track or on the street and think it was a dog I have seen this far to many times.
As I all ways see it #1 is the driver #2 how well it was tuned # 3 weather conditions
These three factors are just as important as what was under the hood
So what was the fastest ?? Today a dodge 440 can beat a camaro 427
Tomorrow the camaro blows off the 440 . The next day it could be a Buick grand sport or Pontiac gto, and so the debate will go on. I have been to a few factory show downs years ago and the end result was never the same. So what was the fastest
ALL OF THEM [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
Norm

[Jeff H]

You also have to remember that a lot of the press cars were "tweaked" to make them look good to potential buyers. I've heard of 383 Mopars that really had 440s in them for the press to test out. I'm sure it's just a rumor though, we know that everybody was playing by the rules back then. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img] It's hard to use magazine tests, but I guess there isn't much else unless you have original owner time slips.

[MotownMadman]

The manufactures tweaked lots of things, for example, Pontiacs flagship was the GTO, they wanted the public to believe that to be there quickest car, then along comes the 400 Firebird which was quicker due to less weight. Pontiacs answer? They installed a block on the throttle linkage of the Firebird to stop it from opening all the way, thereby giving the GTO the advantage and Pontiac the ability to continue to claim the goat as there premier musclecar. How many of you guys heard that one before? Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]