latest Jim M. Chevy records rumor

[Unreal]

As a "cloner" not a "faker" I look forward to Jim's documentation. Maybe that will lift the veil of doubt, when guys like me say they have no intention of defrauding anyone.

[elcamino]

<font color="red">I know of a First Gen Camaro right now sitting in a body shop that is being built as a SS396, he also has 2 parts cars in the back 40. Guy is a body shop owner and long time worker for a defunct GM dealership. He has been hunting the parts etc for several years now. He is very knowledgeable about the GM body codes and tags etc. He was just bragging to me that he was building an SS. He does not care its a clone, he only in it for the money. When I bugged him about it not being a real SS, he says "It will be when I am done". He has built other cars in the past and sold them, one was a phoney 1970 Chevelle SS. The person who bought that one was a former coworker of his and knew it was not an SS but he takes it to all the local cars shows purporting it to be a real SS396.

There are a lot of persons out there that are of the opinion that to be a SS, all you need is the emblems, bucket seats and a floor shifter. Many just don't care one way or the other. I often here someone say, its my car and I can do what I want with it. I don't like the word clone because its often blurred when the car is sold, so the new owner now purports the car as real. Unless the person doing the cloning is putting something permanent on the car that states its a clone. Most if not all won't do that.</font color>

[Unreal]

I'm building a Yenko clone with factory air. That's pretty permanent.

I offered several years ago to develop and maintain a "Clone Registry" on this site. That way current cloners, not intrested in disguise, could register their car. Potential buyers could check the list before laying down big money for a potential purchase. Tom elected not to take me up on my offer.

[82z96ss]

Clones are not just happening to these old cars either. There was a 96 Z28, the guy was selling as a limited edition 96 SS. It did not have the SLP sticker or build number. It did have (from the pictures) SS spoiler, hood and decals. This was on ebay and fetched SS sells price. To the person that didn't know better thought he was getting a real 96 SS when he was getting a clone.

As an owner of a true 96 SS it upset me som'n fierce, cuz it looked just like mine.

CLONING IS WRONG WHETHER HUMAN OR CARS!

But that is another debate.

[Unreal]

Stranger,
Got any art in your house? Are they originals, or prints?
Got any furniture "in the style" of 18th century? Just curious.

[sYc]

Unreal, You are more then welcome to do a "clone" registry, but the sYc will not be involved. One of the main objectives of the sYc is to help seperate the real ones from the rest, not bring them together. If we did, here is what would happen, "For sale, 1972 Yenko Nova, registered with the sYc". No thanks, I have enough to do as it is. Tom

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

BTW, this is a true scenario! There is actually a videotape of a '72 'Yenko' Nova that they would like nothing more than add 'verified by xXx' to it.

I think there are a few members who might actually have this tape, and might have bought the car if they hadn't asked a few questions first [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[Unreal]

Tom, I'm pretty sure I already knew I could do a clone registry outside the SYC.

The guys with real cars like to argue that clones are a conduit for some poor unsuspecting buyer to be taken. I was just offering up a way to help minimize that concern.

[JBB]

We have been down this road before, everyone. When going to Volo a while back, after learning a 69 SS350 purchase from a local Illinois dealer was a fraud, there were 9 69 Camaro's there. Z's SS's ect. Ony ONE was what it was supposed to be. I asked one of the Thamm Brothers why the inconsistency, and he told me "Joel, people don't care about numbers, they just want it to look good and go fast."
I think it is safe to say that 95% of the public doesn't care about numbers or authenticity, the other 5% reside here. If the masses spend big $$$ on parts and such, we can only wait for the "book" to come out for the real players............ [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img]

[SS427]

Jim,
I see you are on line this morning. Chime in and give us the latest update. Thanks for your continued efforts to bring us these records. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img]
Rick