69 COPO, Real or Not?

ny69ssdave · #1 07-19-2002, 08:23 PM

I very much agree, If it is not the org motor, State it, The seller did say it had the org motor, But like I said, after veiwing the car, and componets, It was hard to decide weather it was or was not.
The car does have some neat options, And this car really is a beautiful car, none of the parts that are packed with it are aftermarket, they are all GM. This car only needs a paint job, and reassembled. It actually could be done within a few months. I am about to give up my 70 Chevelle SS Convt, LS5 with many options, for this car. I am hoping its the right move. I do belive it is not the org motor or trans, but it is definatly correct. I have a list of part numbers, and date codes, someone really put alot of time into making sure they had the correct parts. You are right, A judge would have a hard time deciding if its org or not. I would love to have the car, but like I said, for the money, is it the right car? or should I keep looking.

**YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY** · #2 07-19-2002, 08:47 PM

A second opinion, preferably from a Diamond class Camaro judge, might be worth considering. You would be surprised as to how they tell what is correct, restamped, incorrect, etc.... They have found casting dates that were perfect for the car, except they were 'cast' in Bondo [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

Better safe (with your LS5 Rag), than sorry (after finding a better deal a few months later). IMHO!

Jeff H · #3 07-19-2002, 08:48 PM

I was in the same situation with another JL8 car. I was 99% sure it was not the original engine but after talking to the 2nd owner who verified the 4 wheel disc brakes and also told me about a bunch of options that had been added to the car, I was comfortable buying it. It took me too long to decide though and someone else bought it the day I was going to give him a deposit. In your situation, if the asking price is based on the current owner saying it is the original engine, then I would need to see some solid proof of that. Otherwise I would offer what I felt the car was worth with a "correct" engine and components. I hate the fact that some people call a car "matching #'s" when it doesn't have the original VIN matching components. To me, that is "correct components". A lot of dealers use "matching #'s" when they should be using "correct". Based on what you've told us, I think you'll always be thinking in the back of your mind that you're not sure if it's the original engine or not, so buy it thinking it isn't.

T Billigen · #4 07-19-2002, 09:56 PM

Even if some of the components are not original, it is still a very valuable car and the price is going to keep going up! In the long run it will more valuable than the chevelle. If is the real deal, go for it, I don't think you will be sorry!!!!!

ny69ssdave · #5 07-20-2002, 03:07 AM

Well, we all know the car is real, I am sure it is not the org drivetrain, but Im about to pay 50K for this car, and mabey I would be better off with the chevelle, but Most of the COPO's that I have looked at, they want 65 or better, and I have no more proof that they are any more number matching, than this one.

**Steve Shauger** · #6 07-20-2002, 02:40 PM

Dave(nyss69dave), don't you broker cars for Bob Harris( he owns this copo). As a matter of fact are you now selling his 1967 pace car on ebay. It seem as though you are in fact pumping up this car to sell it . Why are you deceiving all the members of this board, acting as though you are going to purchase the car. What is the deal???? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/mad.gif[/img]

T Billigen · #7 07-20-2002, 04:57 PM

And the plot thickens..............

ny69ssdave · #8 07-21-2002, 04:10 AM

Your right, I do broker cars for Bob, So does other people, Which gives me alot of time to consider this car, but If I was only a broker, I would post the car myself, and give you all the details that I have. And the car might sell easily, but if Im considering the car for myself, I would like the opinions of other's. I have many cars myself, most that are highly sought after, And would like a COPO for myself. This car was brokered by someone else for bob, When I read the description, I could not belive they did not go into more detail about the car. If someone knew how much was there, and the quality of what is there, the bids might have gone higher. Well the car is still there, and every time I see it, I can not belive its still there. Which is why I came to this place. If you feel Im up to something, then I guess Im in the wrong place, If I was wanting to sell the car, I would list it correctly. The longer it sits there, the better chance that I will buy it for myself. But like I said, there was many stories about the car, and I wanted to hear them from someone else.

tubbys57 · #9 07-20-2002, 01:46 PM

I'm looking for a 1970 Chevelle convertible. If you decide to sell the Chevelle for cash... or if anyone else knows of one for sale please let me know.

**Kurt S** · #10 07-21-2002, 06:45 AM

If the drivetrain was supposedly stored by a prior owner, why not chase down the prior owners to find out if that's true? Sure would help solve the problem..... [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

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