yenko camaro ??

[Mr Yenko]

I would cut the WHOLE floor pan out from front to back from the donor car. That is my personal opinion and .02 cents.BP

[sixtiesmuscle]

Tom, if I read your post correctly, that theory is just plain RUBBISH!!. To think that any kind of rebody involving the cowl, firewall & shell is "more correct" than an extensive restoration of a real car misses the mark on where the "soul" lies. What do you think 90% of the real cars are that are out there now? That's just my $.02, Merry Christmas.

[Edited by sixtiesmuscle (12-25-2001 at 03:06 PM).]

[CamarosRus]

COPO, Did I understand those two Barrett Jackson links to show that a certain ZL-1 originally sold at Allen Green Chevrolet sold in 98' for $64k and in 01' for $134k....even though the only Piece on that car that ever came with or on a ZL-1 was the Vin Tag....not just a rebodyment but a total fabrication......interesting news to me.....Chuck

[COPO]

Chuck, the point of the 2 links is to show the difference in what the collector car market perceives is the value between a re-body ZL-1 and a "real" one. The car w/the Allen Green tags was $64K. The links are 2 different cars. See the VIN's.

[CamarosRus]

COPO, Sorry I missed the fact that these were two different cars.......curious if the 98 $64k sale was to "Tony" at a certain musclecar dealership and what in fact has happened to the Allan Green car......anyway...later, Chuck

[tom406]

Thanks for the discussion, I think the debate is healthy for all of us, if for no other reason than to define what's important to us and our hobby.

For the record, super honest unrestored cars are my favorite, and I am among those who would pay more for a killer unrestored car than a fully restored one. I'm probably playing devil's advocate on this issue, since in all honesty, I probably feel only 1 guy in 50 could actually carry out what I consider to be a successful "rebody". It would require complete knowledge and exceptional restoration skill, and most of us usually just have one or the other. And the scenario would have to be like the one I told, where you had a pretty complete car to redo, not just bits and pieces. I'm NOT a supporter of building a car from tags and a title, there is absolutely no "soul" left there to debate, as its only the smallest step from finding dead VINs and building replicas. It's just if I found a neat, significant car that was just a bit too rusted or twisted, but I thought it should be brought back via restoration, I'd be comfortable (in theory anyway) using a date coded donor rather than trying to patch and realign everything. Not many cars are neat or valuable enough to justify the time and expense, though.

Finally, I don't possess the skill or ambition to attempt even a half-assed rebody (another reason to stay with gennie originals), so please don't think I'm one of the producers of these controversial cars.....

Happy New Year all.......

[Stefano]

tom406,
The rebodying of a 1969 Camaro would be an easy task to say the least. Changing The vin
(illegal BTW) and trim tag as well as the secondary Vins could be accomplished in just about any home garage.
This is one reason that original and unrestored cars are extemely desireable ,in todays market place. A car may be restored many times over, but it is original only once.
Any one can be taken by fraud. This is why it is a crime in our society.
When is the last time you saw a Super Car or high end Muscle Car advertised as number matching, date coded ,restamp ?