"Mystery" Chevelle LS-6 in NEW Muscle Car Review???

[L78Impala]

Redeuce,
What kind of shape are those heat shields in? does the owner want to sell them? Let me know.
"[email protected]"

[68l30]

Dave,great list!My pet peeves are new stereos and aftermarket shifters.How about some period pieces here as well.I hate to see a mint dash hacked for a full face stereo.I remember running a old Mr.Gasket(before Hurst) Verti-Gate shifter on the street.Ouch! I can still feel the pain in my fingers from pulling up to constantly down shift.I know auto shifters were pretty much non existant in the late 60's early 70's..What about those Hi-Jackers?Now those I don't miss either..........

Steve

[Rat_Pack]

whitetop, are you going to the Mopar Nat's in a few weeks? Can you check out this Nostalgia class and see if the cars are being "classified" correctly by the judges? The only drawback to having a class like this is whether you could find at least two judges per show that could correctly judge the cars. Most clubs or show promoters do not have anyone that has the knowledge like you to know if an item was available at a certain period in time. What do you think? Maybe only allow cars manufactured up to a certain year say 1974 or 75? There is another aspect also, safety issues with tires, shocks, seat belts, and other items. I would not want to see a guy come rolling into a show on a set of 30 year old tires, because they are not reproduced, and then have a sidewall give way...........................RatPack............. ........

Maybe lets start a new thread on this subject................

[qwerty]

I happen to own the mystery car you guys seem to be such experts on. It's true the heat sheilds are not correct, and no I did not spend the money on replacing the missing smog equipment, but the car is in new condition mechanically and cosmetically and aside from the minor details you anal retentive concourse types are complaining about the car is mostly correct. I did not buy or restore the car to impress those of you that go to shows and then complain about everyones cars, when 9 out of 10 times the crap in your garage sucks even worse. I bought the car because I appreciated it for what it was and the fact that is wasn't like every other LS6 out there.

The car was never represented as a concours car in the article or otherwise. It is driven reguarly and as far as I can tell, nobody out there has one that is like it. The docs to back up the history of the car are impecable and undisputable.

As far as the "mystery" part of the magazine article, you guys need to lighten up. Tom Shaw asked me to be in the magazine because of a last minute no show of a different car and needed something out of the ordinary to fill in for a factory freaks theme. As far as the true color, the notes on the build sheet say 926-99616 Orange acrylic Laquer so you tell me.

As far as the price I am asking for the car, if you saw the documentation, the amount of new parts on the car the spotless undercarage and engine compartment,the new wiring , interior, dash etc. and put it next to a lot of the junk that I see out there for sale everyday,I don't think I'm to far out of line. Before you start running down someones car based on it's condition you should really know all the facts.

Randy and NICAB have sold me multiple cars and they have been great to deal with. As for the condition of the car as it "drifted around" until it was pawned off on me, you are right that it was a ratty restoration, but if you reread the article it clearly does state that when I got it from NICAB it needed some work.

Finally, just to let you know, I'm not some lightweight idiot that Tony and Randy took for a ride. I have owned dozens of cars over the years and currently have a Alpine White 70 Hemi Superbird 4 speed console car with 16k miles that has a complete matching numbers drivetrain, carbs, starter, both jacks etc.and is 99.9% original restored and has complete paperwork. So you concours guys that will be at the Mopar Nats in columbus in a couple of weeks can come see it under the tent. If it makes you feel better, you can tell me how bad my Chevelle is to my face and I'll be happy to show you my Superbird and pictures of my MSO Earnhart Camaro with 77 miles and a signed dash when your done.

For those of you that were defending my car or apreciating it for what it is, and you know who you are... thanks.
Doug Young

[69rsss350]

Well said, Doug! Glad you came to speak for yourself and your car!

[redeuce]

Good to hear from you Doug! If I had the money I'd buy it. I have learned that in here it either has to be absolutely correct or what they SAY is correct. I hate to step in the poop again gentleman, but to the uninformed person that is already calling Moon parts off because Moon was a has been since the early sixties obviously hasn't gone to www.mooneyes.com or ordered from their 76 page catalog. I have one if you want to borrow it. There have been changes in the hierarchy of the company over the years, but they are alive and kicking. If you have a question, email Dean Moon at [email protected]. By the way, they have developed a new custom wheel specifically for the '69 Camaro. Boys, boys, please research a little more before stepping up to the pulpit. We just talked about how nice a day 2 car would be, and you are already getting the "correct" list going-and again knocking a person or company without fact. Hey, you regular guys, call Dean- he'll tell you what is correct or not and what was available in the sixties or seventies. That might be a more accurate way to do it. Moon made valve covers, guages, etc. in that era.

[hvychev]

oh no.

We are'nt going to rehash this whole "mystery Chevelle"
NIGHTMARE again are we?

What happened to the nice "day 2" subject?

[Fhakya]

Touchª on the response Doug! Enjoying these cars it paramount to none. It's a small miracle that there are so many examples that eluded molestation. Enjoy your cars and revell in the attention that they bring. After all, isn't that why we all wanted them in the 1st place (chicks dig 'em...high school mentality)???. With the exception that I've been a gearhead since like age 9.....the attention to my hobby has kept me trying to build/acquire better.
-Mark
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[Keith Tedford]

I guess the factory correct restoration guys wouldn't be impressed with me either. Our '69 300 Deluxe SS396 L78 Chevelle has a Hurst 4 speed shifter, Headers, Stewart-Warner tach and gauges and T/A radials. This is the way the original owner set the car up in '69 and that's the way it will stay. The car won a people's choice award at a show a couple of weeks ago. But then what do people know. When finished, our COPO Chevelle, which I bought new in '69, will also have the headers, Hurst shifter and radial tires. The F-70 Uniroyals, smog pump and manifolds can stay on the shelf for the next owner. I guess I've always been a day 2 guy. In 5 years we have put over 14,000 miles on our 396 car. Included in the mileage were trips to Maple Grove and Woodward. I'd say we are getting full enjoyment out of our cars. Everyone does something different and that's what makes the old car business so interesting.

[whitetop]

Redeuce
UNIFORMED? I'm not the one uniformed. I have been into Day Two since the '70's. I have never left. I've read just about every single Hot Rod type car mag from the era and have kept notes on what was correct, when parts were introduced etc. It is my obsession-Hot Rodding from '68-'75. I'm not cutting down Moon I'm just saying by running Moon parts on your musclecarcar you are not correct for the era. That is a fact. Of course people can run what they like. Moon was not it's former self by the late '60's and was not making anything for the musclecar set at that time for the most part-that guys would be interested in. Yes I know they were still makin some fuel tanks, gauges etc. Their parts were already dated in the late '60's/'70's and guys ,just like today, wanted to run the newest/latest parts. The company was for most part stagnet throught the '70's and 1980's with 1-2 employees and producing not much of anything when a young finacier from Japan bought the company and revived it in the late '80's early '90's. The Japanese are big into America's '50's stuff and were the ones credited with reviving the company. They actually have Moon stores throughout Japan. I know they have a 76 page catalog but 99.9% of the stuff in it is geared for a 1950's style Hot Rod ('32 Ford etc) or Customs not a musclecar. The huge trend of building '50's style Hot Rods brought back the popularity of Moon in Japan and the US over the last 10 years or so-hence the 76 page catalog. Also alot of the stuff in today's catalog was not even produced back in the '50's or '60's by Moon. They are slapping the mooneyes decal on everthing even if it was never produced back then-many of the items are new parts developed over the last 5-6 years.
The '69 camaro steering wheel you are touting is a prime example.
Finally, I went to the website saw nothing but early '60's rails, Ed Roth type stuff, and a bunch of early style '50's Hot Rods and Customs.
Dave