Old Owners

[Denis]

Mike, do you have a street address and/or town listed on that '73 title?

[A69COPO2]

Denis; Yes, I have it. It is as follows:

Thomas A. Stubbs, 43 Dalewood Rd., Clifton, NJ. Date of Issue:6 29 73. Here is the VIN 136379B404108, it's a Fathom Green with Dark Green Bucket/console, Tac/gages,F41,L72,M22,NC8....Pretty rare COPO, with all these options. It has been Certified by COPO Connecting, back in 1996.I would also like to know, how I can get this VIN run on NICB, to find out what dealer sold it New. NJ only keeps logs back, for 10 Years. Any help, would help to finish Docing this Rare COPO Chevelle....No, it's not for sale.. Thanks, for any info, MIKE

[Denis]

There's only one Thomas Stubbs listed in all of NJ.
His address is a mere 12 miles from that given on
your paperwork.

Stubbs, Thomas
14 Marshall St
Irvington
NJ, USA 07111-8633
Phone: (973) 4161653

If it's the wrong guy, there are only two other
possibilities listed in all of NJ.

Stubbs, T
1008 Inland Rd
Forked River
NJ, USA 08731-5210
Phone: (609) 2429183

Stubbs, T
734 Stewart Ave
Bridgeton
NJ, USA 08302-3133
Phone: (856) 4511757

As a last resort, try calling all the neighbours.
There's no current phone # listed for the original
address, but here are three of the neighbours' numbers,
including that of the house immediately across the
street (this is a residential street just off the Garden
State Parkway). Don't laugh -- I was able once to
find a previous owner by calling a neighbour who
not only remembered the car but knew where its owner
had moved to:

Costa, Rosangela
48 Dalewood Rd
Clifton
NJ, USA 07013-3402
Phone: (973) 7796761

Eusebio, M
44 Dalewood Rd
Clifton
NJ, USA 07013-3402
Phone: (973) 4726930

Obrien, K
47 Dalewood Rd
Clifton
NJ, USA 07013-3401
Phone: (973) 7780940

Can't help you with NCIB reports. If you find out how
to get at 'em, let me know because I also have an
undocumented 67 Z28 which I can't trace back beyond
1976.

Good luck, and let us know how everything turns out.

- Denis

[A69COPO2]

Thanks, and will let everyone know, how it turns out. Had a state trooper, that said he located him, but nothing since then. I'll check into these numbers, and post it. I know at least one neighbor remembers the car, but don't know which one, we'll see. Thanks Denis...regards, MIKE

[James Berry]

The original owner's reaction was, "I have been waiting for this call a long time." He did not ask to buy the car back he just wants to see it when it is in his area.
The search for old owners can be very hard, I have about 250 hours in this search. All you need is a few pieces of the puzzle like A69COPO2 has, alot of paitence and some good help like I had on this websight.

[A69COPO2]

I very much, agree, the folks on this site, are very helpful and I enjoy posting info, if I can help. This car will get a full ground-up Restoration, as it deserves. I have run into brick walls, some of the previous owners, didn't want to help. I'll just keep looking under all the stones, until Mr. Stubbs and I talk. This car was never registerd, by a few owner, this makes it difficult. I'm just happy the 1973 title/ partial build sheet came with the car.

If their's some one out, that lives in Cliffon NJ area, that knows of a 1966-67 GTO running a BBC with a four speed, namely my 427. I would like the name of this owner and phone#. This is a rumor, that I'm also chasing. Car was drag raced and had some other parts installed, that through me off into another direction. I under stand that NICB, can direct me to the dealer that received this car, just don't know how to do this part, any help on this, would help alot.

Thanks, again Denis, and I'll be calling these People today, will post as I find things out.

MIKE

[Denis]

Just last night, I hit the jackpot myself.

Using a name I pulled off a photocopy of a Polaroid of the P-O-P for my 67 Yenko, I contacted the original owner on the first attempt. As in turns out, the original owner lives 3-4 miles from the address listed on the P-O-P, near Madison WI. His name (Gregg spelled with two g's) made it easy to find him in the telephone listings. Total research time: about 30 minutes.

What a blast! Prior to this phone call, I don't think we knew anything about the car before 1990.

I got to confirm what kind of badging was used on the car (no YSC emblems, only the 427 badge on the fenders like in the Span Inc photo -- plus something on the hood he can't quite remember), the correct spare (Charley, you might be getting your SpaceSaver back ), how fast it ran (low 11's with slicks), and more. He promised to try to find some original photos which, unfortunately, his ex might have. Been there, done that.

So now I want to trace it forward from the original owner. He sold it a couple of years later to a local mechanic/racer who drag raced out of Union Grove in the early 70's. His nickname was "Coke Bottles" because of the thick glasses. Any of you 'old guys' remember who this might be?

I'm thinking maybe it would be nice to reunite the original owner with the car at the SuperCar reunion, and maybe see if it still runs as hard as it used to. That'll give the trailer queens a conniption fit, don't you think?