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Old 12-09-2001, 12:55 AM
Charley Lillard Charley Lillard is offline
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Yes I have that book. They are mistaken about the smallblock. What they were supposed to say was that the Engineering work order called for a 325 hp 396 The book says the vin is 194500, it is really 194600. There is a work order # stamped on the block that says 98168 A. I have a Letter from Vince Piggins where he says that is the engineering build order # and he sent the sheets that are mentioned on page 23 of Hoopers book. The book points out that the rear plate # is 142. Al Young says that the 142 plate is something the track gave him later when he needed a rear plate and that it wasn't there from the start.

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Old 12-12-2001, 05:34 AM
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Here is another Cool part of the spare tire. It is stamped Xray on the back side. Did Firestone Racing Division Xray these tires ? Has anyone ever seen something like this ?
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Old 12-15-2001, 02:36 PM
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Hey Charley, is that the optional wrinkle wall tire used in drag racing, that GM offered? Anyway, can't say I have ever seen "xray" stamped on any tire. It doesnt surprise me though! I would think a car that is going to pace an event with a large viewing audience, couldn't risk being taken off the track on the hook, or crashing into a wall due to a tire failure.
A local friend of mine who owns a 67 B/B conv., still has a spare like yours only it is a white wall, and has Firestone in raised letters on his wheel weight. Also on that car, with the hood up and looking down at the lower valance panel it says in black crayon, SS 396. This Camaro is also a one owner, original paint car.
Charley, I've got an ad proof of the 67 pace car. In the lower right hand corner it tells where this ad is going to be placed. It says Indianapolis 500 Race Program...May 30, and, Indianapolis 500 Festival Program...May 30. Below that it says "Prepared by" Campbell-Ewald Co. It also has their logo on it. I've had it about 20 years now. Would it be anything you would be interested in??? Lets make a deal!!

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Old 12-15-2001, 03:02 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="">quote:</font><HR>Also on that car, with the hood up and looking down at the lower valance panel it says in black crayon, SS 396.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is a semi-unrelated note, but on Dad's Camaro it had "427" written on
each front fender extension, upside down.

Warren:

Welcome to the board! Based on what I have read just in the past day, it seems you have been at this game a long time, and I hope you find this board accomodating. Plus, any friend of Lillard's is, well....I feel sorry for you!
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Old 12-16-2001, 08:19 PM
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Hello Chevy454! My 69 Z has GM written in yellow crayon, in both front fender extensions, also upside down. The car also has 5 27 69 next to the orange stripe on the drivers front frame rail. Just in front of the upper and lower control arms, looking through the wheel well.
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Old 12-16-2001, 09:30 PM
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Warren,
Was the 'GM' written on the inside of your fender extentions used to designate the Z\28 emblems ,to be placed on the fenders, such as '427' was used by line workers to designate that no emblems be placed on the fenders?
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Old 12-16-2001, 10:43 PM
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Found this stamped on rear end... 98168-0 is the engineering work order #. Then it appears they started with 3.07:-1 but stamped it out and then went with 3.31:1.
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