Harrell Camaro

[TimG]

I have three broadcast sheets on my old 69 Pace Car. They are the same except one has an error on the key codes. The dealer owned this car for 12 years and kept everything.
I do not have the ability to post these but I can FAX to anyone that would like to see them. I still have the original paperwork on this low mile car as it burnt up in a severe fire. I always wonder if that car is back on the road.

[SuperNovaSS]

Would it be better to restore this car to the way it came new from Harrell or to the condition it was in the pictures I got from the original owner? I haven't decided whether I'm going to restore it or sell it yet. Just curious to get opinions. Also does anybody know if Harrell used the L78 carb on an L-88 conversion?


Jason

[Edited by SuperNovaSS (12-27-2001 at 03:09 AM).]

[Rat_Pack]

Jason, you would be better off to leave it as it is and show it that way. Get the car mechanically sound and put the slots back on it and give it a good cleaning. It will draw more attention this way since you have photos from when it was originally modified. I have found that when a car is in this condition and still running, people seem to draw to it more. They like what has not been messed with and restored. This car has character and loads of it!

I have a couple of old hot rod Camaros pushed off to the side that are covered in dust and have faded paint, big tires and wheels and other period correct hot rod parts on them, basically like yours. Those cars get more attention than the frame off cars I have sitting 20ft away that I am working on. Show it that way for a year and then restore it back to the way the pictures show it: fender flares, slot wheels, big tires, high ride height, and Monza exhaust. It is one bad hot rod............RatPack.............

Whitetop don't you agree?

[Warren Malkin]

Hey 68TopStock, this is just a reply to your 12/8 posting about CE trannys. I think CE was reserved for counter engines,or otherwise called "crate engine". I myself have never seen it stamped on a tranny case, I just haven't been able to check them all yet! The following is just my observations, open to criticism, or enlightenment.
Any transmission case I have seen with CC, or CT stamped on it followed by a number, would be a replacement (counter) bare case, or replacement complete assembly. The single digit following CC or CT, would be the year. Examples; CC9,or CT0 would be'69 and '70 respectively. It usually has a five digit serial number near it also.
If the case also has an assembly date, then it was a complete tranny when sold over the counter. For example; CT9 P9B21C. If just CC9, it should have no assembly date, which means it was a bare case only.


[Edited by Warren Malkin (12-27-2001 at 10:50 AM).]

[whitetop]

I agree with Ratpack. I was at a Street Rod Nationals show last year and there was a original '50's flathead powered 1932 Ford Roadster that was in storage since the late '50's. The paint was cracked/dull, interior was coming apart and the chrome was dull and hazy. The car was not as nearly as perfect as cars built today. The welds were not great, detail was just not there. This was how most of the cars were built back then. However that being said, the car had a huge crowd around it all day. There were other '50's style hot rods(recently built cars to look like they were from the era) there but were not getting as much attention as this one. You saw a look on peoples faces when they saw the car you do not see often. People like to see something that is original as it was. I think some "patina" adds character as long as it is not excessive.
I would clean up the Camaro and put the wide slots/tires back on it. Of course I'm biased towards Day 2 cars but I have to say what I saw with the '32.
Dave

[Edited by whitetop (12-27-2001 at 10:21 AM).]

[Stefano]

Warren,
I had always thaught that the "CE" designation represented Chevrolet Engineering, although Counter Engine or Crate Engine makes more sense.

[SuperNovaSS]

I totally agree. If I decide to sell the car it will be sold unrestored. The car would not need as much attention in the restoration as most, since it is in good condition already. Paint is really its only downfall.



Jason

[Edited by SuperNovaSS (12-27-2001 at 12:41 PM).]