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Old 10-20-2001, 01:36 AM
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Hi All,

I have to respond to what was said about the '71 BM Camaro. I have first hand knowledge about the car and the deal that was made for it. I have known about (and ridden in) this car since '72. My shop was the one that restored the car for the gentleman that Kevin purchased the car from. When I saw what was written on the site I called him and asked him what happened. He informed me that the guy from back east did have a deposit on the car but had dropped the ball as far as coming up with the money to close the deal. As far as I know from what this man told me Kevin was the first one to "pull the trigger". Emotions run high when dealing on these rare cars. The same person that owned the BM car back in '72 sold me my COPO Camaro. Two years before I bought it he had offered the car to his nephew, the nephew screwed around and tried to chisel him on the price. When I was offered the car, I appeared on his doorstep in 30 minutes with a deposit and grabbed the Protect-O-Plate to ensure the car was mine.
The nephew was so mad that I ended up with the car that he wouldn't speak to me for about a year. The upshot of this ramble is,
not to give complete credence to the guy who "lost" the deal. Most of the time it was his own fault. Frank Payne.

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Old 10-23-2001, 03:41 PM
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I returned from Alaska night before last, read this thread after my wife's telling me about it. I finally have calmed down enough now to respond in a gentleman-like fashion.
I will again tell the real story on the 71 B/M Camaro for Bow Tie Gang since he is stirring up the controversy.

I contacted Jon Bischof about selling his 71 B/M Camaro 2 years prior and it was not for sale at that time. When 69 motion Jeff called me I had my Hemmings in my hands as well, which had the 71 B/M ad in it. Jeff asked me what he thought the B/M car was worth, and secondly if I was interested in buying his 69 SS396/375 HP Chevelle for $65,000; which coincidently was the asking price of the B/M camaro. I then called the owner Jon Bischof direct to re-remind him of my call asking to buy it a couple of years ago. He responds that the car had to go through the broker now but confirmed there were no deposits on the car yet. I felt my position in line for purchase of this car was first, having been two years prior to other potential buyers. I still waited another day, then called the broker who said he had no deposits but had approximately 10 prospective buyers, any of whom could buy it at any minute. I spoke for it and bought it.

We all know now there was a second like kind 71 B/M Camaro on eBay. After all this controversy, Jeff did not bid on it?? As it didn't sell, it could've been bought after the auction for $57,000. I think I would've done a favor to anyone wanting a 71 B/M Camaro as it was $8,000 less than what I paid.

It appears that Dan 68 Chevy II is the person behind the scenes fueling this controversy by emailing off-line. He had the only negative remark in the original 71 B/M thread as well. Another member of this Board had passed on to me that when asking for info on a 68 Big Block Nova, Dan emailed him stating that since he sided with Kevin, Dan wouldn't help him; as Kevin was a wealthy owner that didn't care about his crews whom where in danger on his boats in Alaska, and that Kevin's Dad gave it all to him. I've also emailed to Bow Tie Gang off-line asking if it was Dan emailing him off-line and fueling the 71 B/M controversy; but he has not responded. My assumption is that it is Dan.

Dan this is for your info: Although I have a great Dad, the only thing he gave me was the suitcase I packed my clothes in when I left home at age 17. I've not inherited nor have been given anything by anybody. I started my business from scratch. My crews and other boat captains are like family to me whom I care a lot about. This is because I spent 32 years of seasons at Sea risking my life with them, so I know what happens up there. I just returned from a season of which a storm took place and we fished in 40 foot seas. There was loss of life again and numerous vessels incurred heavy weather damage. My brother-in-laws boat recovered one of the bodies. Being there and listening to it happen on my radios tears your heart out. We are like a small tight-knit community of vessels at sea, as we are 100 miles offshore with no protection. There were vessels that had wheelhouse windows blown out, which results in destroying the vessels navagation and communications electronics. One vessel returned with the steel top of his wheelhouse peeled back like the lid on a tin can. Yet these are not small vessels as they are heavy duty steel and range in 120 to 165 feet in length. But all my vessels, crews and myself returned safely. Kevin







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Old 10-23-2001, 04:18 PM
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Well said,welcome back!


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Old 10-23-2001, 04:40 PM
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Kevin, Wenona, that was more explanation than anyone deserved nor should you have had to make it!! Hopefully this thread can be put to rest. Welcome back (got back just in time for last nights storm which I am sure seemed very tame to you).
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Old 10-24-2001, 05:09 AM
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I have been to Seattle and the first time I was there I met Kevin and he invited me to his home. He really didn't know me or my friend, but we were invited anyway. He was a complete gentleman and gave us the full tour of his home and cars. We never felt intimidated, just welcome. It is a grand collection to be sure. Kevin has been to my home as well and I have been with him at other events and he and his family have never been anything but splendid. It is disturbing that some people will condemn without any real facts. It is happening all to often on this site. I along with many others have tried to give the facts out on topics without any nonsence. I have been as calm as I can be about some of the things that have been said to me and others on this board. I have had times I just will not post because of the way the thread is moving. This is my favorite site to visit. I hope that we can all keep it that way. There is a lot of knowledge behind the keypads out there. I just hope we can continue to share it...BKH
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Old 10-23-2001, 11:05 PM
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Kevin I guess you just don't remenber me .I talked to you personally and you said would help me with imfomation about my car and did you ever call just to say no I couldn't find anything,Thanks for helping.This happen when you had your 69 BM Motion for sale in Hemmings and I called on your car .You told me you sold the car and that the new owner wanted to keep the price private.I could care less what you have and as far as what you just said ,if it makes you fill good say whatever you want,I heard different opinons off line and also phone calls from many people also.I just want to know one thing ,why do you feel you have to justify your ownership of 40 supercars?I don't come on here and defend why I have 3 muscle cars,I appreciate what I have and I'm dam lucky to have these.I think all of us work hard for what we have,but I've yet to see anyone else but you defend why they have what they have ,lets add that to the Profiles maybe since it seems to be the TOPIC NOW.
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Old 10-24-2001, 03:30 AM
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Dan, Kevin feels compelled to explain himself because of your earlier postings, e.g.:

"Jeff,sorry to here you got screwed...since your not in this elite,secreted ,wads of money group...people play their stupid little games."

"I've seen NICB mention by a collector of rare muscle cars...I will call my friend tommorrow and tell them the NICB is for the rich and famous and it exist for the chosen few."

"...maybe we could help other people to find imformation they wouldn't normally no how to get, or why bother their not SUPERCARS."


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