69 daytona yellow b/m camaro

[Jeff H]

Speaking of Baldwin Motion Camaros, I came across this car while searching around today. I'll paste in the link, but I know it won't work as a shortcut so you'll need to cut and paste it yourself.
http://www.wwwheels.com/cfapps/ascar.cfm?ID=1549315

[TwoBryans]

jeff h
that's a cool piece of history. is that just a baldwin car or a b/m car? either way it's still a cool car to have if it's authentic.

[GMH454]

As I don't think any two motion cars were the same, (Joel was always changing his mind on the stripes) and the option list of transplant parts was not always the same I don't think such a car could ever be effectivley restored without substantial input from photos, Joels memory ?,etc, even if you could find an invoice.
Also didn't the axle ratios vary enormously

[Dan 68 Chevy II]

Andrew,
I see were speculateing on what Baldwin Chevrolet salesmen said to prospector buyers.I speculate that there was Baldwin Auto Company which was the performance side of Baldwin Chevrolet for doing operations with Joel Rosen of Motion Performance and Baldwin Chevrolet for your everday average Joe,probably maybe 2 separate corporations for say liability purposes.What we need is maybe say a saleman or finance guy from Baldwin Chevrolet or better yet Joel Rosen himself to visit us so we don"t need to speculate.I guess for now we can all speculate,if it fills good speculate.

[bowtie3168]

Dan,
I can speculate on this because I have worked at 6 different dealerships one of them a Chevrolet store that has been in buisness for 55 years.I studied Automotive Marketing in college (Northwood University,a dealership management school). I live 1 hour from where Baldwin Chevrolet was. A gentleman that I work with bought a car there and lives five minutes from the location. Many racers that I know from the track purchased cars from Motion and know Joel Rosen. Motion Performance was a seperate buisness from Baldwin Chevrolet and Motion continued to produce cars long after Baldwin Chevy went our of buisness. Dan that is how a dealership works. Advertise the coolest hippest car, get the people in, and put them into what you can. Baldwin Chevrolet sold many more 350 4speed Camaros and Novas than they did Phase III Supercars.

Andrew

[Edited by bowtie3168 (08-01-2001 at 01:32 PM).]

[Dan 68 Chevy II]

Did you say you live 1 hour from Baldwin Chevrolet ? So when Baldwin Chevrolet was open in the 1967 to say 1972 you being 1 hour from the place must of been in there quite often,maybe to possibly buy a Phase III car or maybe a average Joe car if you coudn't afforded a Phase III car.I also have talked to Joel Rosen but that doesn't make me a expert on imformation that he only knows.Just for the recorded I think Joel Rosen is a not as bad as some people make him out to be.He was very creative and knows marketing when it comes to his cars.I wonder if he has a degree in marketing? I'm know expert on this Motion stuff ,just expressing my opinion,Joel Rosen the only expert when it comes to MOTION.

[Steve Shauger]

DAN
I live on Long Island and have owned two cars sold at Baldwin Cheverolet (Baldwin Automotive Co. Inc.) Although they were sold there Motion Performance had nothing to do with the cars. One was a 67 rs/ss L78 with 4:56 gears from the factory, the other was a 72 Z28. Being sold at Baldwin Chevy does not in any way connect them to Motion Performance. BTW, Andrew offers alot to this forum in terms of knowlege and insight. I have learned alot by just listening try it....