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Old 04-25-2001, 06:31 PM
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Those Nova's are "the little car that could".
Best time for my COPO LT-1 Nova on 25 year old poly's and a unrestored car is 13.22 @ 105. The car motor is totally stock and will go through a certified stock process at the pure stock drags in 2002. That is with original springs front and rear with 50/50 shocks all the way around. I hope to be the first certified stock smallbock in the 12's. Admittedly I'll need the perfect day with a tailwind. The only difference with the Canadian COPO's from the Yenko's is that both Canadian cars were ordered by Dave Mathers with M20's. That makes all the difference.
My yellow COPO Chevelle on poly's has run a 12.89 @ 111. My orange COPO Camaro has run a best of 12.87 @ 108, and my white COPO Camaro has run a best of 12.69 @ 109. All these times are on F70-14 polyglas tires and will pass cerified stock in there sleep. The difference in times on the two Camaro's is due to orange car has 4:10's and the white car has 4:56 in it. White car motor dyno's out at 420 horse in stock form as seen in MCR. Just curious... Do most of you think I'm nuts for racing these cars? I was the only one for years. Glad to see the Clary's joining ranks. I'm not looking for compliments and I can take the critism, Im just curious as to how people feel on this. Personally I think it's a great way to show people why this are "Super Cars".My cars will never be 1000 point diamond cars but they don't look bad for a farm boy.

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Old 04-25-2001, 07:07 PM
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Pete, I think it's great to see you running your cars to show what they were really built for in the first place. I can also see the argument that it would be too risky to run the original motor in such a car due to its value. I will have to make that decision with my crossram JL8 car next year. Should I build a backup motor to keep the original block safe and secure? I've got a lot invested so I may have to run another motor to protect my investment. But I will be driving the car when it's done.
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Old 04-25-2001, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: OK,who has ran thier car at the track?no BS lets see some time slips

MikeA;
Neal's car is stock, with the changes allowed by the pure stock drags - dual exhaust with two mufflers rather than one crossflow, jetting and timing. The only advantage that Neal might have is that his car came with 4.56 gears instead of 4.10's. (This is not uncommon, there are three Yenko Novas without 4.10's). I said, 'might' have an advantage, because those gears hurt his 60 foot times so much that Pete Simpson's COPO Nova with 4.10's beat him every time. Neal was faster than Pete through each successive timing increment, but the steep gears put him too far behind during the first 60'.

I don't know the best time that Pete's COPO Nova has run, but I believe it is better than 13.45, but with a little less mph.
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Old 04-25-2001, 09:24 PM
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Low 13s? Small block? A-W-E-S-O-M-E!!!! And these LT-1/LS-1 guys in their late model F-bodies think they own the only killer small blocks! They wish!

This thread is really helping my argument for making a '70 Deuce the next car in our stable...Dad...are you reading this?
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Old 04-25-2001, 10:08 PM
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Just to update what I said earlier. The Clary's are not the only one's to join ranks and make supercars proud. As Marlin stated earlier, Neil Robbins has been out tearing up the dragstrip and my good friend Randy Miller also had his Camaro working awsome. I've seen his car with BFG sticky's run 11.89 through the manifolds with a NHRA stock spec'd motor. Sorry guys, clearly an oversight!.....Hey Marlin, let's whind Neil up. You say his car is slower because of his 4:56. I say mine is faster because of the M20. Jimmy say's it's all in the driver. Let's both agree with Jimmy.
PS: come on Marlin, you can spill the beans. I'm thinking after Brewers article in MCR that Neils car will have everone of them little secrets done. When he goes 12.0's I'll know why. Tell him I'm going to weigh his spare.
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Old 04-25-2001, 10:26 PM
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ok... i had a hugger orange 69 RS-Z/28
matching dz 302 the motor was .030 over
balanced. the 3927186 heads were ported and polished and it had the base cam... not the
offroad. 1 5/8 headers. stock ignition,carb,intake ect... had a 4:88 gear
and with 28x9 slicks ran 12.48 @ 107.5
i had a lemans blue 69 Z/28 same motor specs as the other but had an ultradyne solid cam 540/556 288/296 and a 4:56 gear
it ran 12:20's all day long 114 mph. it had an MSD ignition too but i dont hink it did a thing for performance. points do fine.
i'm now looking for that 69 COPO project car you are all sick of me posting about.
when its done you can bet it'll be at the track too!!! i'm betting 11:50's 118 or so.
tuning has a ton to do with making these old muscle cars run the way they should!!
4 degrees base timing in a 69 zee? no wonder they run 14's and 15's!!!! see ya guys!!!!! thanks for the great web site!
steve keech sarasota florida!!
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Default Re: OK,who has ran thier car at the track?no BS lets see some time slips

Pete:

Glad you brought up Miller's Yenko! I heard thru the grapevine the last couple of years that Randy was asked not to bring his Camaro back...any truth to that? Now, I honestly can't remember where I heard that, so it may just be a bunch of "BS", which wouldn't surprise me since he was there the following year with his LS-6.
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