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I'm sorry that I read and assume too much from what I have read.
Here's the Header for the auction : 1970 Chevrolet : Nova 14,000 miles 427/425HP Awsome MINT SHOW Orignial Then you get this in the description : Ordered with low options, radio delete, no tinted glass, no carpet, has 12 bolt posi with 4.10 gears, turbo 400 transmission on the column, bench seat. Trunk looks as if it's never been used. now for the not so good part, the original motor was plucked out some time ago and now has a fresh out of the crate LS6 454 450HP. Did I read something wrong ???? It is a B.S. Type auction to suck in the unknowing. Why does he later say this : ??? , chevrolet did not put 427 or 454 in chevrolet novas EVER!!! Aftermarket companies did this conversion. Is this in fact one of those cars? I don't know for sure Rick
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Rick 66 Yenko Stinger 68 Camaro SS396 L78/L89 (gone) 69 F250 CrewCab 4x4 Survivor (gone) 08 F250 CrewCab 4x4 13 Ford Explorer Sport 3.5 Ecoboost |
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I agree he shouldnt have put the "I dont know if its one of these cars" part in his decription, but come on, any "car guy" who half way knows anything knows better. Looks like a nice driver though.
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Micky Hale Hale Performance Consultants Engine Parts Sales & Service |
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In 1970 I would have thought at least power brakes would have been standard if it was a big block. He never came out and said it was a original 427 car but he made is sound like it was. It is worth harassing him if it means we can prevent someone who doesn't have much money that goes all out to buy it finds out later its really a six cyl car or whatever. Being one of those people that may only own one supercar someday I would hope the one I get is real
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I know there are a lot of experts out there with way more knowledge than I have, but since I have a personal interest in Novas, I felt compelled to comment on that auction.
This Nova looks to be a very nice (and probably quite fun!) driver, but I agree that it is misrepresented as an "Original" and "unrestored" for several reasons. First, to the best of my knowledge, that 11327 code on the door sticker indicates a 6-cylinder coupe body code. I haven't seen any 6-cylinder Novas come out with 12-bolt posi rears and Turbo 400 trannys. Also, the SS badging appears to have been added to that "unrestored original unmolested" car. I believe that '70 SS Novas automatically received front disc brakes. The brake pedal pad on the car does not indicate this. In 14,000 original miles of use, the pedal wouldn't have worn out and needed replaced. The original steering column is color-keyed to the interior (not black) and doesn't sport the SS badge on the center shroud. The hood, with its very nice louvers, doesn't have the extra support bracket that factory SS hoods seemed to have. That front side marker light/bezel is a '68/69 vintage part. I don't think they fit on original '70 Nova fenders with the longer side lights. The owner contradicts himself by later saying that it isn't an original SS, when it also has never been restored or molested (are we talking about cars or people?). Isn't sticking on badges, changing drive-trains, etc. call modifying? Modifications are cool, but shouldn't be misleading to anyone. The above notes are just my observations. I have no objections to what was done. It would probably be a sweet package to play with, but don't like to see misleading things like that ad posted out there. Just my $0.02. Thanks for listening!
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Allen 1970 Nova SS L34 396/350hp, 4-speed, 3.31 gears 1969 Corvette 350/300, 4-speed, 3.36 gears |
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I agree, it looks like a nice driver, but am disappointed in the way it was presented. I hope who ever is bidding on it knows what they are getting into, that it is a built car. I hate to say it, but many times people buy BEFORE checking, not after. We here at the sYc, like several other people I know in our hobby, have had to tell someone that their "special, rare" car is not what they were led to believe. I know it is buyer beware, but a lot of the public does not have the knowledge of these cars that we do. Anytime a fake/clone/built supercar sells as a real one, I think it only hurts our hobby. How would you like to be a judge at the Novas Nats and have to judge this car in the original and/or survivor class, which is where the new owner may feel it belongs? Tom
[Edited by sYc (11-20-2000 at 08:01 PM).]
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Allen;
Excellent reply, you are right on all counts on this car being a 6 cyl. with the catalog SS parts being added for show! The car is a very nice car, and would make a great street racer if the price would remain reaonable. M
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Marlin 70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride) 69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride) 67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride) |
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Thanks! I guess I'm just picky about those things. I've had four Novas over the years, and my current toy is a '70 Nova SS 396/350hp car. To the best of my knowledge, it appears to have the original factory setup (motor, trans, rear, interior).
Just like you folks with the SuperCars, when I take an interest in something, I try to learn all of the little details that I can. So, based on my interests, I pay attention to the '68-'72 vintage Novas. I'd love to get one of those prized Yenko Novas, but don't see that happening anytime. My first goal would be to simply ride in or drive one.
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Allen 1970 Nova SS L34 396/350hp, 4-speed, 3.31 gears 1969 Corvette 350/300, 4-speed, 3.36 gears |
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