Camaro's at Carlise

[Peter]

They won't judge your cars because you guys do restorations right and use GM parts where ever possible rather than the repro parts made by the sponsors. If they judged your cars then you would win and it would look bad for their buisness. I have bought a couple repro parts from the sponsors mentioned and they all have been bad from chrome to rubber. Can't understand how the original part can last thirty years but the repro rubber can only last a few months on a car that is garaged and doesn't see the weather that the original part endured, and I live in MA. Some chrome is good but the metal underneath is wavy and cheap (one of my Trim Part door handles) They wouldn't exchange it because it wasn't considered defective enough. The original is back on. Paint flakes off emblems. Technology has come a long way in thirty years but it seems the repro companies use the technology to make parts as cheap as possible to make as much money as possible rather than make a decent part that will last. I would definately pay more for a better quality product. Sorry to get off the subject here but I had to vent, its very frustrating. How can you really judge a car restored using as much GM parts as possible against a car thats using as much repro parts as possible anyway? There isn't much repro that looks or fits like original. Not that the GM parts are all they are cracked up to be but at least its GM. Some repro may last on a show car but the real test comes when you install the parts on a daily driver that see's all kind of weather like the original cars did thirty years ago. I have seen many problems.

[bowtie3168]

I am looking foward to meeting other members of the "Super Car Reunion Club" at Carlisle this weekend. After reading the message board for a while it will be fun to meet some of the other members. If you will be attending, maybe it would be good to post your name so we know to look for each other. As mentioned in a previous posting I think that Jerry MacNiesh will be attending with his 1967 Z. I was lucky enough to attend the "York US 30 Reunion" with him two weekends ago. The show was great with people such as Bill Jenkins, Jere Stahl, Bill Stiles, Susan Strickler and her sons, as well as Bruce Larson and many others attending. Jerry MacNiesh, Don Fezell, and Larry Brinkley lined up 3 of the surviving "Old Reliable" cars (of the late Dave Strickler) for a once in a lifetime photo. Mrs. Strickler, her sons Mike and Chad, were nice enough to let us take photos of them (with the cars). Jenkins, Howie Slaybough (Stricker's crewman),Bill Stiles,Jere Stahl and others were also very gracious for letting us take photos of them with the cars. Frank Spittle put the event together and I would like to thank his for his efforts in making the show happen.
Andrew Hinckley

[sYc]

Some things never change, including SC. I wish that I had been able to attend the US 30 reunion. I never tire of looking at true, vintage muscle/drag racing cars. The more the better, whether supercars, A/FX, funny cars, Super Stocks, etc., as they all are related in one form or another. With this thought in mind, I have a question. What would everyone think about an event for VINTAGE muscle/race cars only. Much like the road course folks are doing. 2-3 days of nothing but vintage muscle/race cars involved in NON-JUDGED events, from showing to exhibition racing. Picture this, first up to race, original supercars,Yenko, Motion, Gibb, Harrell, etc., then superstocks, Zl-1s, Z-11s, Z-28s etc., then AFX/funny cars once raced by Dickie Harrell, Bruce Lawson etc. Mix in hemis, thunderbolts, max wedges, Super Duty Pontiacs, etc. WOW!! With an event(s) of this type, we would not need, nor have to, put up with the other shows. An event of this type would require a lot of hard work from everyone, but, even if we only did it once, it would surely be an event to remember. Tom

[bowtie3168]

Here is a list of some of the cars that were at York:
(1)Bruce Larson's USA-1 1968 Logghe Chassis Camaro "flip-top" Chevy Powered "Funny Car"
(with opening drivers side door).
(2)Dave Strickler's 1962 Chevrolet 2dr Bel Air"Bubble-top" 409 ci/409 hp 4 speed "Old Reliable II" (Owner Larry Brinkley)
(3)Dave Strickler's 1963 Chevrolet Impala "Z11" 427 Z-11 "W" head motor "Old Reliable IV" (Owner Don Fezell)
(4)Dave Strickler's Super Stock World Champion Car 1968 Chevrolet Camaro Z-28 "Old Reliable V1 (?)"(Owner Jerry MacNiesh)
(5)Dick Milner's "Allen Green Chevrolet"1963 Impala "Z-11" (Allen Green is a Seattle Wa. Chevy Dealer). (Owner Don Fezell).
(6)Maynard Rupp's "Chevoom" 1966 Chevrolet Chevelle 300 rear engined "Funny Car" (392 Hemi) (not a "flopper") Sponsored by "Gratiot Auto Supply" ( Original Paint).
(7)Ken Montgomery's "Triple Nickel 555"1965 Plymouth Hemi Belvedere 2dr Sedan Super Stock car. One owner. Still in competion NHRA Super Stock "B" stick.(Ken got it new.)
(8)Dave Lyle's "Goin'Thang" 1969 Mustang (rebodied as a 1970)Fast back, Pro Stocker (NHRA) factory "Shot-gun Hemi" car.

No Cars, but attending
(1)Bill Jenkins: Jenkin's Competition.
(2)E.J. Potter:"The Michigan Madman"283 powered motorcycle on fuel.
(3)Pam Hardy: "Jungle Pam" of Jungle Jim fame.
(4)Darwin Doll: NHRA retired Div 1 director
(5)Susan Strickler: Widow of the late Dave Strickler.
(6)Jere Stahl:"Stahl Total Tune Headers".
(7)Bill Styles: Mopar Pro-Stock Pioneer.

[copo69]

Tom, I've always thought a show of the type you mention would be great. For some reason it's hard to put together a show of this type. I've been to Super Stock Reunions, Midwest HotRod Reunion, Supercar Showdowns etc. and for some reason they just don't seem wildy successful. I don't know why. Lack of advertising, getting the word to the right people? Anyway, I approached Frank Spittle once about doing a car show to accompany the SS Reunions. They had a lightweight show but that only brought in a handful of cars (I met Micky at Va. with a lightweight Pontiac). He then tried the "400 club" for muscle cars rated @ over 400 hp from the factory but it wasn't well publicized and not many cars showed up. I think it was hard for Frank to do the race and his plate was too full to do the shows. Its a shame, I miss these events but understand promoters must at least not lose money and should make a profit. Perhaps if enough groups could get involved it could be put together. The nostalgia super stock racers, this club and maybe some other clubs could coincide their annual conventions and a race date together to make this happen. Maybe just a case of someone starting the ball rolling and some communication. I also missed the York event and regret it, but I understand there are plans for a second one next year so I won't miss that. Greg

[copo69]

Tom, I've always thought a show of the type you mention would be great. For some reason it's hard to put together a show of this type. I've been to Super Stock Reunions, Midwest HotRod Reunion, Supercar Showdowns etc. and for some reason they just don't seem wildy successful. I don't know why. Lack of advertising, getting the word to the right people? Anyway, I approached Frank Spittle once about doing a car show to accompany the SS Reunions. They had a lightweight show but that only brought in a handful of cars (I met Micky at Va. with a lightweight Pontiac). He then tried the "400 club" for muscle cars rated @ over 400 hp from the factory but it wasn't well publicized and not many cars showed up. I think it was hard for Frank to do the race and his plate was too full to do the shows. Its a shame, I miss these events but understand promoters must at least not lose money and should make a profit. Perhaps if enough groups could get involved it could be put together. The nostalgia super stock racers, this club and maybe some other clubs could coincide their annual conventions and a race date together to make this happen. Maybe just a case of someone starting the ball rolling and some communication. I also missed the York event and regret it, but I understand there are plans for a second one next year so I won't miss that. Greg

[bkhpah]

Getting back to the Camaro's at Carlise event for a minute. There were a good many neat cars at the show over the weekend. Two copo Camaro's (silver,and brown) two 69 Yenko's (Yellow and Rallye Green) a yellow ZL/1 and some very original survivor class cars including a 67Z,67SS396,68SS396 and a69SS396 car that were for the most part unrestored. The rainy weather danced around the event for the day part of the show , but we did get rain every night. What is the Reunion turnout looking like at this point? I got to meet some of the people that I have only talked to on the phone or computer in person as well. We will see you all soon!
BKH