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Old 01-22-2025, 02:54 AM
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The subject toppled lift is a Champion Triple Stack lift. For the past couple years, this vendor has set up the Triple Stack lift at BJ with cars on it for display with no issues. Obviously, this year did not go as planned. This particular lift utilizes an air lock release system and is specifically designed to be anchored to a level, concrete floor with four anchors per post, 16 anchors. The BJ tent is on asphalt, has a slight slope, and I don’t see any evidence of anchors in the pictures. I do not know what the root cause of this particular incident was, but not being properly anchored was probable a key contributor to the outcome. Thankfully no one was hurt. I do own two Champion four-post lifts and have not had any problems with them. However I do pay very close attention to when raising and lowering cars. You need to make sure all of the locks release when lowering the lift with cars on it.
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Old 01-22-2025, 04:25 AM
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The TITAN (MCACN) Lift in Post #17 Looks VERY Similar to my DIRECT LIFT (Owned by ROTARY, but Mfg in China) I read/looked at TITAN's web site and could find ZERO regarding Country Of Mfg..............

I have two DIRECT LIFT 4 post Lifts. Neither are anchored to my level concrete floor.
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Old 01-22-2025, 11:40 AM
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A friend that was there said when they had lifted the car up one guy said he didn’t think one lock had locked. The other guy went to lift it but instead that one leg lifted up and the tipping started. From my experience that lifting happens when you release the pressure.
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A friend that was there said when they had lifted the car up one guy said he didn’t think one lock had locked. The other guy went to lift it but instead that one leg lifted up and the tipping started. From my experience that lifting happens when you release the pressure.
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Old 01-29-2025, 02:26 AM
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Pretty sure that’ll change every lift safety protocol and setup at every show moving forward.
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Old 01-29-2025, 09:25 AM
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My 4 post is an Advantage. I have noticed if I'm not pushing down on the release hard enough one of the locks might not release all the way, then when I lower it, it catches. Becomes pretty obvious, Ive done that a couple of times. It's never lifted a leg or tilted the lift but it's something that needs paid attention to. It moves so slow it would be hard to get in trouble with it without noticing somethings off before it becomes irreversible.

I've been using mine for several years and happy with it, very robust compared to a couple other brands I looked at down there last weekend.
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We have a Titan 4 post (our son won it at MCACN years ago). Not made in USA. We have had zero issues with it and it is not anchored to the floor. I agree with Charlie's and others comments regarding the locks not releasing all the way prior to lowering - something you have to be aware of when lowering the car. From my experience it is something that you will notice immediately if paying attention.
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I have had a lot of lifts and I have 4 now. They are Auto Lift brand, made in China. Most importantly, they have mechanical locks and you can easily discern if they are locked or free.

I have heat in my floor so I can't anchor them, but they are on dead-level and flat floor and don't shift.

My Bendpak was on a terrible floor and I had it shimmed and anchored for stability. The air locks are a menace in my experience. You have to sight it carefully when you are lowering, because they are all independent and you can hang one and have a bad day. You also have to visually check to ensure that all four are on the slots and locked when you rest it at the raised height. Someone inexperienced can easily make a mistake. It looks like the one that crashed has air locks.

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Old 01-30-2025, 09:19 AM
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Is there a reason air locks would be attractive to someone?
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Old 01-30-2025, 11:40 AM
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Everything is push button these days, push button start your car, select gear, flush the toilet. I don’t own a lift but have been around them and see that locking mechanism could be an issue if not paid close attention to. Easy way to get hurt or have a lot of property damage!
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