Mecum - Pebble Beach

[Steve Shauger]

Originally Posted by daveg

Chevy folks [with the exception of 66- 68 SS chevelles] are used to the VIN telling you basically nothing.
Cowl tags are sorta worthless also.

Not so on either count with Mopars.
VIN tells you EXACTLY what motor came in car.
Fender tag or tags tell you exactly what came on car.
Build sheets are common in Mopars also.

"Born with" is secondary to proper dates- numbers on Hemi Cars.

Heck of a lot easier to fake a LS6 Chevelle than a Hemi Mopar.

No matter what brand, fake cars are built. Your example of Mopar is misleading. For example cars have been built with just the VIN tag, and accurate repop fender tag have been available for years. My point like all brands fake Mopars exist, especially with the values they bring.

Regarding your example of LS6's most have buildsheets or data cards validating original build equipment components. Yes these can be faked as well. Another point is if you are purchasing a car due your diligence and hire an expert to inspect the car. Many cars have known histories. If you truly want a no excuse car you need to do research and if you have limited knowledge hire someone reputable.

Finally, for me I am only interested in no excuse cars with born drivetrain, real docs and original as possible. Although paperwork is important, I still own cars with no paperwork, but Vin, Trim and Components are validated and are real as rain.

[Hawkeye]

You wrote: "Thought all its little details would be of interest but that does not seem to be the case."


I would just like to state that this group is very much into all the little details. It just needs to be presented in a format that can be followed. Tell the story from the beginning. Post clear pictures and talk about what is found. We all learn from original cars and it is very fascinating to most here. You will see most threads on recently discovered or purchased cars do get a lot of feedback.

Cheers,
Marty

[Jimlt4383]

Originally Posted by Steve Shauger

No matter what brand, fake cars are built. Your example of Mopar is misleading. For example cars have been built with just the VIN tag, and accurate repop fender tag have been available for years. My point like all brands fake Mopars exist, especially with the values they bring.

Regarding your example of LS6's most have buildsheets or data cards validating original build equipment components. Yes these can be faked as well. Another point is if you are purchasing a car due your diligence and hire an expert to inspect the car. Many cars have known histories. If you truly want a no excuse car you need to do research and if you have limited knowledge hire someone reputable.

Finally, for me I am only interested in no excuse cars with born drivetrain, real docs and original as possible. Although paperwork is important, I still own cars with no paperwork, but Vin, Trim and Components are validated and are real as rain.

The entire dash Vin tag has been reproduced on some mopars. Some are very good and some.are.ez to spot.