69 Pontiac Firebird and GTO- Hot, Hotter ,Hottest

[turbo69bird]

Originally Posted by auwrestling

My car does not have special order axle thus 3:90s . 4:33 gears with raiv internals caused many engine failures

It’s was the words (& special order axle) on the window sticker that made me ask that . I’d have to dig out my window, sticker but didn’t think mine was worded that way. (from
Memory)
In pretty sure my PHS just says safety- track -HD

I thought there was a Special line on PHS similar to that for 4.33 compared to 3.90
Maybe mine reads the same way on the window sticker . That line was curious to me though.
Good to know that’s what a 3.90 would read.
I wonder if a 4.33 would be worded differently on a window sticker there’s been some questions as to if any 68 69 birds came w the 4.33 but there definitely some axles w the correct code out there. And I’ve seen listings for cars used from the early 70s w that axle but could have been installed .
I find the 4.33 bird thing interesting .

Seems the a PHS reads different for different parts of the year as well . As w the case for the decor group after March 17th .

[auwrestling]

Originally Posted by turbo69bird

It’s was the words (& special order axle) on the window sticker that made me ask that . I’d have to dig out my window, sticker but didn’t think mine was worded that way. (from
Memory)
In pretty sure my PHS just says safety- track -HD

I thought there was a Special line on PHS similar to that for 4.33 compared to 3.90
Maybe mine reads the same way on the window sticker . That line was curious to me though.
Good to know that’s what a 3.90 would read.
I wonder if a 4.33 would be worded differently on a window sticker there’s been some questions as to if any 68 69 birds came w the 4.33 but there definitely some axles w the correct code out there. And I’ve seen listings for cars used from the early 70s w that axle but could have been installed .
I find the 4.33 bird thing interesting .

Seems the a PHS reads different for different parts of the year as well . As w the case for the decor group after March 17th .

It would be very rare and interesting to find a 69 Firebird with a 433 rear from the factory and probably never happened. I would also say that it’s definitely a lot more reliable to go with the Phs vs window sticker when it comes to the wording on some of these items

[Steve Shauger]

Originally Posted by auwrestling

It would be very rare and interesting to find a 69 Firebird with a 433 rear from the factory and probably never happened. I would also say that it’s definitely a lot more reliable to go with the Phs vs window sticker when it comes to the wording on some of these items

Matt, what I've been told was RAIII could be ordered with 433, but RAIV only came with 390. Is that correct?

[Steve Shauger]

This is a window sticker of a car I used to own. Another expensive RAIV that was optioned very well.

[muscle_collector]

these are obviously reproduction window stickers. what about yours matt, is it the original one or a reproduction one also?

steve, that is the carousel red one you sold to phil right?

[Steve Shauger]

Originally Posted by muscle_collector

these are obviously reproduction window stickers. what about yours matt, is it the original one or a reproduction one also?

steve, that is the carousel red one you sold to phil right?

Yes, I believe Rick owns the car now.

[turbo69bird]

Originally Posted by Steve Shauger

Yes, I believe Rick owns the car now.

Is that Jack Romanos old car?

[auwrestling]

Originally Posted by muscle_collector

these are obviously reproduction window stickers. what about yours matt, is it the original one or a reproduction one also?

steve, that is the carousel red one you sold to phil right?

Hi Gary, mine is the original window sticker!

[turbo69bird]

Originally Posted by auwrestling

Hi Gary, mine is the original window sticker!

Which means our repros are likely worded incorrectly

So the next interesting thing is that my RAIV car doesn’t list the decor group but had everything on the decor group. Wheel molding, drip edge bright work, pedal trim, rocker moldings wheel opening chrome,” north” had said something. About it being changed on March 17th and that many cars had all of it even though only part part was listed on the PHS . Seemed like maybe those pieces were added automatically w the ram air IV option as I can’t think of one I’ve seen without it.

[auwrestling]

Originally Posted by Steve Shauger

Matt, what I've been told was RAIII could be ordered with 433, but RAIV only came with 390. Is that correct?

Never heard that Steve.