Not LS-6 @Barrett-Jackson Las Vegas 2019

[Nova Pete]

Why would this car be in a registry if its a known fake? That doesn't make sense to me.

[SS427]

Its no longer in the registry and has not been for quite some time. I am not sure what was provided to Dale when it was originally registered or how it was listed.

[SBR]

Originally Posted by MYSTERYCHEVELLE

clearly, the new owner was not interested in doing any form of Research before buying this car as its apparent from this post., it's not a CIA Secret that this car is a clone. Makes ya wonder when are buyers going to stop being lazy and do an ounce of due diligence??

I do hate these scumbags who are passing these cars off as real but come on people.... Smart enough to have made such a good living to afford a $125K car but too Stupid to make some calls

I agree, people who clone cars in the name of $$ are pure scum that ruin it for those that have the real deal. As for the buyers, in most cases it has been my experience at least with Corvettes, that they would rather buy the car first then ask about it later which makes no sense. My theory is that most of these guys are very successful and are not used to having someone tell them what to do.

[SS427]

It happens all the time. I get the call after someone has bought the car and want me to inspect it. I am then the asshole when I tell them the car is fake, has fake paperwork, non original drivetrain, etc.

On the flip side I apologized to a customer once for the inspection (pre-purchase) costing so much and being able to disqualify the car within 15 minutes of arriving. He responded with, are you kidding? You just saved me $150,000! That put a new perspective on things for me.

The builder of the car in this thread needs to go to jail and it is up to us that are true hobbyist to see that these people pay hefty fines or do some jail time. LS6's have been very soft as of late and I think we can attribute some of it to these people ruining for others.

[Nova Pete]

Anyone know this guy?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevro...8AAOSw3v5Yqmn3

[SBR]

Originally Posted by SS427

It happens all the time. I get the call after someone has bought the car and want me to inspect it. I am then the asshole when I tell them the car is fake, has fake paperwork, non original drivetrain, etc.

On the flip side I apologized to a customer once for the inspection (pre-purchase) costing so much and being able to disqualify the car within 15 minutes of arriving. He responded with, are you kidding? You just saved me $150,000! That put a new perspective on things for me.

The builder of the car in this thread needs to go to jail and it is up to us that are true hobbyist to see that these people pay hefty fines or do some jail time. LS6's have been very soft as of late and I think we can attribute some of it to these people ruining for others.

It sure would be nice if the GM docs surfaced, I know it won't happen. That would be must see TV!

[olredalert]

Originally Posted by Nova Pete

Anyone know this guy?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevro...8AAOSw3v5Yqmn3

----The picture of Bill Porterfield and Ronnie Sox was taken at Quaker City. The weekend was called Field of Dreams. I can't remember for sure but Grady Burch may have been there with his COPO Chevelle. Bill did what he stated before the weekend really started and then broke. I was asked to step in with Red Alert even though Ronnie's and my times were about 3/4 of a second apart. The Hemi Cuda actually belonged to Dale Smith (RIP), my long time close friend from Bloomington IL. and he paid Ronnie to drive that weekend. Dale owned OEM Glass. We finally bargained to a 1/2 second, as I just wanted to say I raced the famous R.Sox. Ronnie wasn't used to someone leaving a half second ahead of him and stood the Hemi on the rear bumper. I got of a little crooked and later found out that I scared some of the photographers so much they ran back from the railing, but Red Alert always landed well. Meanwhile Ronnie hit the ground so hard that he holed the oil pan. He either didn't know it or didn't care and tried to catch me, but I won by a whisker! It's infinetly better saying you beat Ronnie Sox than just saying you raced Ronnie Sox!!! LOL......Bill S

----Apologize for getting away from an important topic!...….Bill S

[DW31S]

The buyer either doesn’t care or doesn’t know, and it seems as though B-J doesn’t care either. The real fine print of their (B-J) disclosure clearly states they are not responsible for “numbers”.
Greed is indeed a deadly sin and it seems several people are guilty of it when it comes to this particular car.
Does anyone here know who bought it in January for $51000 plus the juice? I’m wondering if it was purchased to make money, or if the buyer found out what he/she really had and decided to turn it loose (and make a nice hit).

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Rick and I have both spoken about this situation many times. Just as he did here. I was just last week put in the same situation for a 67 SS L-78 on eBay. Still on eBay. Buyer saw it’s listed in the “L-78 Registry” and was happy to to put down a sizable deposit. Then enter the lets see if Mike knows this car? You can figure out the rest I think. Almost spent close to 6 figures

Unfortunately I think many are unintentionally misled by seeing these CERTIFICATES of being in a Registry. I’m not sure that means the same as verified and authenticity of a car. I do know, there’s plenty of people out here who can help someone BEFORE buying a car. Some may do it for FREE and that’s fine and Dandy and others get paid which is also more than fine and dandy. But I for one think everyone should continue to reinforce with all of our friends to get a car verified first. Put your Pride aside. I know many who think “ I don’t need to pay someone to tell me if a stamp is fake or document is fake.... I know just as much as that guy” Buyer Beware.... even all of us

[XXXGoldL34M20]

I actually know a former owner of this car,
Used to be a real deal SS 454 LS5 car built out of Arlington Plant, he still has photos of the CS Tag for an Auto LS5 400 along with a bit of history on the car.
He told me it was converted to a LS6 car right after he sold it, Next seller knowing it had a perfect match for the rear end (3.31 Auto Posi code had both the same rear axle for LS5 & LS6) then added a bogus CY trans tag that was incorrectly stamped and finally putting in a CE Warranty LS6 block (Which is BS with no documents to back it up). Knowing there was NO Build sheet for this Arlington car stated it was an LS6 after these changes NASTY.
Destroyed what was already a true LS5 SS, also never had stripes before it was turned into a LS6 CLONE.
My verification for this car would have taken minutes to do if someone hired me to do the inspection LOL. Pretty sad what goes on but it is happening a lot more today.
I tell my clients not to buy cars at auctions anyways as there are about only 10% to 20% of the cars being real IMO and from my experience.