Not LS-6 @Barrett-Jackson Las Vegas 2019

[SBR]

Originally Posted by SS427

It happens all the time. I get the call after someone has bought the car and want me to inspect it. I am then the asshole when I tell them the car is fake, has fake paperwork, non original drivetrain, etc.

On the flip side I apologized to a customer once for the inspection (pre-purchase) costing so much and being able to disqualify the car within 15 minutes of arriving. He responded with, are you kidding? You just saved me $150,000! That put a new perspective on things for me.

The builder of the car in this thread needs to go to jail and it is up to us that are true hobbyist to see that these people pay hefty fines or do some jail time. LS6's have been very soft as of late and I think we can attribute some of it to these people ruining for others.

It sure would be nice if the GM docs surfaced, I know it won't happen. That would be must see TV!

[DW31S]

The buyer either doesn’t care or doesn’t know, and it seems as though B-J doesn’t care either. The real fine print of their (B-J) disclosure clearly states they are not responsible for “numbers”.
Greed is indeed a deadly sin and it seems several people are guilty of it when it comes to this particular car.
Does anyone here know who bought it in January for $51000 plus the juice? I’m wondering if it was purchased to make money, or if the buyer found out what he/she really had and decided to turn it loose (and make a nice hit).

[XXXGoldL34M20]

I actually know a former owner of this car,
Used to be a real deal SS 454 LS5 car built out of Arlington Plant, he still has photos of the CS Tag for an Auto LS5 400 along with a bit of history on the car.
He told me it was converted to a LS6 car right after he sold it, Next seller knowing it had a perfect match for the rear end (3.31 Auto Posi code had both the same rear axle for LS5 & LS6) then added a bogus CY trans tag that was incorrectly stamped and finally putting in a CE Warranty LS6 block (Which is BS with no documents to back it up). Knowing there was NO Build sheet for this Arlington car stated it was an LS6 after these changes NASTY.
Destroyed what was already a true LS5 SS, also never had stripes before it was turned into a LS6 CLONE.
My verification for this car would have taken minutes to do if someone hired me to do the inspection LOL. Pretty sad what goes on but it is happening a lot more today.
I tell my clients not to buy cars at auctions anyways as there are about only 10% to 20% of the cars being real IMO and from my experience.

[rlw68]

Originally Posted by DW31S

The buyer either doesn’t care or doesn’t know, and it seems as though B-J doesn’t care either. The real fine print of their (B-J) disclosure clearly states they are not responsible for “numbers”.

The auction listing also states the car is "fully documented with its original Protect-O-Plate". So I assume it has a fake Pop, with an LS6 engine code. What's up with this?

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Rick and I have both spoken about this situation many times. Just as he did here. I was just last week put in the same situation for a 67 SS L-78 on eBay. Still on eBay. Buyer saw it’s listed in the “L-78 Registry” and was happy to to put down a sizable deposit. Then enter the lets see if Mike knows this car? You can figure out the rest I think. Almost spent close to 6 figures

Unfortunately I think many are unintentionally misled by seeing these CERTIFICATES of being in a Registry. I’m not sure that means the same as verified and authenticity of a car. I do know, there’s plenty of people out here who can help someone BEFORE buying a car. Some may do it for FREE and that’s fine and Dandy and others get paid which is also more than fine and dandy. But I for one think everyone should continue to reinforce with all of our friends to get a car verified first. Put your Pride aside. I know many who think “ I don’t need to pay someone to tell me if a stamp is fake or document is fake.... I know just as much as that guy” Buyer Beware.... even all of us

[Charley Lillard]

I let someone from Barrett-Jackson know about this thread and they were aware of the problem and looking into it.

[Xplantdad]

Thanks Charley!

[TimG]

The bottom line is don't buy a rare car that has a stamper motor and no valid paperwork. It could have been born something else and you'll probably find out the hard way.

I'm sure the fact that the motor was restamped would have been detected by a knowledgeable person. The only thing you have to go on after that is paperwork, and without that you're out on a limb.

No motor or no paperwork = no sale in my book.

[purple panther]

The bigger problem its been sold 2 times as an LS-6 thru auctions according to posters on this thread . Whoever owns its now is going to have some cover. Personally I hate this crap because it hurts the real cars. Who certified the car as a LS-6?

[Mr70]

Represented 5X as an LS-6.Looks like 3X through B-J,and 2X through Mecum.

In Chronological order:
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...LLE-LS6-234262 Sold $137,500.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0519-37...-chevelle-ls6/ Bid to $80K
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...LLE-LS6-224541 Sold $56,100.00
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...-SS-LS6-180571 Sold 88K.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/KC1213-16...-chevelle-ls6/ Sold $41,500.