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Old 11-01-2018, 06:37 PM
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The T/A is a great first car, LS1, Ram Air, WS6, leather, 10 speaker stereo, T-tops and he ran a 13.09 without even changing the air box! It's really hard for today's youth to appreciate the old stuff when they can buy an LS1 car with 60k miles, not a ding or a dent for $10k!
Putting a bit of perspective on that, There was no way I could have afforded a new $20k IROC back when I graduated high school in 1989. Instead, I wanted a 15-25 yr old muscle car that I could afford.

Back in 1989, a 1969 model was a 20 year old car. In 2018, a 1998 LS1 Z28 or T/A is a 20 yr old car. Seems about right that kids would be buying these cars.
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Old 11-01-2018, 08:47 PM
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On the price of the ZL-1 bidding to $380.000. What I have observed over the years is any good car doesn't need to be SOLD through a auction house. They trade between the big collectors so no one knows there business. Auction cars are what I have felt to be the leftovers if that makes any sense. Just my opinion
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On the price of the ZL-1 bidding to $380.000. What I have observed over the years is any good car doesn't need to be SOLD through a auction house. They trade between the big collectors so no one knows there business. Auction cars are what I have felt to be the leftovers if that makes any sense. Just my opinion

To make a blanket statement that auction cars are leftovers in my opinion is simplistic and just wrong. Many spectacular cars have been bought and sold at auctions. An auction is just another method to buy and sell cars. There is certainly a risk selling at a no reserve auction because the attendee's at the auction set the market (at that time and place) so there is risk, but also reward if you have at least two must have bidders. Obviously auctions can produce tremendous sale prices for sellers.


I will say I see many cars relisted on ebay auctions and other outlets and I would consider those "leftovers". The car in question had not been for sale for years and certainly not a leftover. Those who attended either were not in the market for a ZL1, or didn't like the options or restoration.


The only issue I have with an auction is the ability to really examine the car beforehand. If I had already examined a car and the seller wanted to sell at auction I certainly would have no issue bidding to my comfort level.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:44 PM
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I don't believe in the market dying syndrome. If that were true all the brass era cars would be worthless right now. All the desirable muscle cars will still bring money for years to come.

Cool ZL1. Options don't bother me at all. I wouldn't kick it out of my garage. I mean common, it's a ZL1!!
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I don't believe in the market dying syndrome. If that were true all the brass era cars would be worthless right now. All the desirable muscle cars will still bring money for years to come.

Cool ZL1. Options don't bother me at all. I wouldn't kick it out of my garage. I mean common, it's a ZL1!!
Agreed, look at the supercharged Duesenberg that sold for 20 million at Monterey, twice its estimate. The best of the best musclecars will continue to escalate in value for many years to come.
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Agreed, look at the supercharged Duesenberg that sold for 20 million at Monterey, twice its estimate. The best of the best musclecars will continue to escalate in value for many years to come.
I agree too. I do think some of the more moderate higher production number cars could come down.
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I agree with Mr.Yenko.
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