Top Day 2 Musclecars?

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If engine swaps are allowed I want a Boss 351 Maverick. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] </div></div>

That would be FUN! About 2900 lbs, right? Great engine, too.

Which brings me to my next point - if you were going to break this into different classes, what would it look like? Day 2 has different meanings to different folks, but there are a few different levels.

1. Day 0 - not a real class, but you start off with the same rules as Pure Stock Drags, so the PSD folks can easily run the below classes.

2. Day 2 - larger tires allowed, but no slicks. Larger wheels, too, of course. Slapper bars allowed. Headers allowed, along with free-flowing exhaust (limited to 2.5&quot; and mufflers that were available from '64-'71?).

3. Day 3 - Period correct slicks allowed. Gears can be deeper than what was factory available. Shift kits ok for auto trans and aftermarket shifters (period correct) for manual trans. Aftermarket cams ok as long as it's a grind available from 64-71. Period correct intake, ignition, and carb upgrades ok, but no holes in the hood. No machine work (porting, etc) on heads or short block. No body mods, no mini-tubs, no aftermarket hood scoops. Open headers ok.

4. Day 4 - Engine swaps allowed, but only something available from 64-71. Body mods allowed. Hood scoops allowed. Engine machine work allowed. Rear-end swaps allowed. Removing weight (back seat, etc), allowed. Hole in the hood allowed. Tunnel rams ok.

What did I miss?

[old5.0]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bulletpruf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If engine swaps are allowed I want a Boss 351 Maverick. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] </div></div>

That would be FUN! About 2900 lbs, right? Great engine, too.

Which brings me to my next point - if you were going to break this into different classes, what would it look like? Day 2 has different meanings to different folks, but there are a few different levels.

1. Day 0 - not a real class, but you start off with the same rules as Pure Stock Drags, so the PSD folks can easily run the below classes.

2. Day 2 - larger tires allowed, but no slicks. Larger wheels, too, of course. Slapper bars allowed. Headers allowed, along with free-flowing exhaust (limited to 2.5&quot; and mufflers that were available from '64-'71?).

3. Day 3 - Period correct slicks allowed. Gears can be deeper than what was factory available. Shift kits ok for auto trans and aftermarket shifters (period correct) for manual trans. Aftermarket cams ok as long as it's a grind available from 64-71. Period correct intake, ignition, and carb upgrades ok, but no holes in the hood. No machine work (porting, etc) on heads or short block. No body mods, no mini-tubs, no aftermarket hood scoops. Open headers ok.

4. Day 4 - Engine swaps allowed, but only something available from 64-71. Body mods allowed. Hood scoops allowed. Engine machine work allowed. Rear-end swaps allowed. Removing weight (back seat, etc), allowed. Hole in the hood allowed. Tunnel rams ok.

What did I miss? </div></div>

My thinking is similar to yours. I've always thought of Day 2 as something like Pure Stock + slicks and headers.

The problem is that everyone's definition is going to vary. For example, I know of an 84 Hurst/Olds that was bought new and immediately driven home from the dealership and &quot;re-powered&quot; with a 350 out of a 70 W-31 Cutlass. I know 1984 is outside the timeframe we're discussing, but it does illustrate the fact that there's going to be serious disagreement over what constitutes true Day 2.

The other problem is creating unstoppable combinations (like my cousin's 351C powered 71 Pinto, for example). Making swaps &quot;Day 4&quot; helps, but it's still a tough one. The streets are pretty tough these days, but with a 1971 cutoff for speed parts, cars like the Cleveland Pinto mentioned above turn into class killers. His car is basically a circa-mid 70's Pro Stocker with a license plate, and while I firmly believe in the old adage &quot;there's always someone faster&quot;, there's no doubt a 351 Pinto is going to be near the top of the food chain.

I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bulletpruf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If engine swaps are allowed I want a Boss 351 Maverick. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] </div></div>

That would be FUN! About 2900 lbs, right? Great engine, too.

Which brings me to my next point - if you were going to break this into different classes, what would it look like? Day 2 has different meanings to different folks, but there are a few different levels.

1. Day 0 - not a real class, but you start off with the same rules as Pure Stock Drags, so the PSD folks can easily run the below classes.

2. Day 2 - larger tires allowed, but no slicks. Larger wheels, too, of course. Slapper bars allowed. Headers allowed, along with free-flowing exhaust (limited to 2.5&quot; and mufflers that were available from '64-'71?).

3. Day 3 - Period correct slicks allowed. Gears can be deeper than what was factory available. Shift kits ok for auto trans and aftermarket shifters (period correct) for manual trans. Aftermarket cams ok as long as it's a grind available from 64-71. Period correct intake, ignition, and carb upgrades ok, but no holes in the hood. No machine work (porting, etc) on heads or short block. No body mods, no mini-tubs, no aftermarket hood scoops. Open headers ok.

4. Day 4 - Engine swaps allowed, but only something available from 64-71. Body mods allowed. Hood scoops allowed. Engine machine work allowed. Rear-end swaps allowed. Removing weight (back seat, etc), allowed. Hole in the hood allowed. Tunnel rams ok.

What did I miss? </div></div>

My thinking is similar to yours. I've always thought of Day 2 as something like Pure Stock + slicks and headers.

The problem is that everyone's definition is going to vary. For example, I know of an 84 Hurst/Olds that was bought new and immediately driven home from the dealership and &quot;re-powered&quot; with a 350 out of a 70 W-31 Cutlass. I know 1984 is outside the timeframe we're discussing, but it does illustrate the fact that there's going to be serious disagreement over what constitutes true Day 2.

The other problem is creating unstoppable combinations (like my cousin's 351C powered 71 Pinto, for example). Making swaps &quot;Day 4&quot; helps, but it's still a tough one. The streets are pretty tough these days, but with a 1971 cutoff for speed parts, cars like the Cleveland Pinto mentioned above turn into class killers. His car is basically a circa-mid 70's Pro Stocker with a license plate, and while I firmly believe in the old adage &quot;there's always someone faster&quot;, there's no doubt a 351 Pinto is going to be near the top of the food chain.

I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud. </div></div>

Everyone's definition of Day 2 will indeed be different. But once you agree on a set of rules, that's what you have to work with.

351C in a Pinto would indeed but tough to beat, but I don't think it would necessarily rule the roost. Lots of other combo's out there with a lightweight car to start with -- Vega, Chevy II, Maverick, etc.