71 copo nova?

[willie71]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: willie71</div><div class="ubbcode-body">again just trying to find info on the 71.s.s.nova I bought an old neighbor used to have mamy yrs ago. what does my vin tell you #114271w117254 titled as a 71. and delivered to ammon r. smith Chevrolet in 9/9/70. there were no big block 71 novas,but mine has a big block heater core with the two hoses going into the middle of it on the firewall box {could my car be a late 69 396 car?) and my old neighbor always told me his cousin bought the car new with a dealer installed 427, that's why he tracked it down a bought it,when he got it it had a small block in it.he died years ago and the car was in storage for 9 yrs.he never got it restored however it has a fresh 427 motor in it.I bought the car off his wife. she didn't know her late husbands cousin.how do I find out more on the car.does ammon r. smith have an archive.supposely thay put 427 motors in some of there cars too.like motion or yenko and nikie. and I know they had the famous old releiable race cars and raced a lot of 427 Camaros and novas etc.grumpy jenkens wrenched those early cars before he raced his own. my cell 717-513-6902 willie</div></div>

[willie71]

im needing help with my vin to decide if my 71 is a late 70 ss 396 car.because it has the 396 heater box on the fire wall/or the dealer aamon r. smith of York{famous for the 427old releiable race cars they and grumpy Jenkins raced}the original owner told his cousin they dealer installed the motor.i bought the car from the cousins wife{without the original motor) after he passed away.i know 71big block novas weren't made. so why the big block heater box on the firewall with the hoses going into the center. vin is 114271w117254 and per ncrs documentation it was delivered to aamon r. smith Chevrolet on 9-9-70

[PxTx]

Throw up a pic of the trim tag on the fire wall. If you need help with pics, we can help.

[442w30]

You need to slow down a bit. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif[/img]

The equipment on the car now is practically irrelevant - anything can happen in 44 years. A big-block heater box proves nothing just like a big-block Chevy motor proves nothing. If there is any pedigree, you need to find it from people in its past.

Additionally, there is no such thing as a &quot;late&quot; 1970 car - it's either a '70 or a '71. Your VIN says 1971? Then there's your answer.

There's a lot of VERY knowledgable people here. Listen to their advice and follow through. Come back with evidence from your search and I'm sure the good people here will be able to help you some more. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

[willie71]

thanks I own a few muscle cars and trucks but know little about the rare ones/btw how do I post pics

[Charley Lillard]

click on the 5th box from the left, upload, hit &quot;do it&quot;

[PxTx]

Try clicking on the 5th box from the left. Then browse to find the pic and select it to upload. Let us know if you struggle anywhere.

[Salvatore]

Maybe the owner just had Ammon R. Smith install the motor for him after he blew the small block up. Maybe paid extra for a 427 under the warranty or just bought the motor over the counter. By then, many hot rodders wanted the 454 so the 427 was probably a good deal. ARS probably talked him into installing the BB heater box also telling him the heater hoses would not fit if they didn't.

Mullin Motors here in Ambler, Pa. installed a 427 short block in my friends 1968 396 camaro after he blew it up probably around 1970. The guy just paid the xtra few bucks for the 427. No biggie.
Have somebody ost some pictures. Sounds like a nice car!

#may want to fill out your profile to Willie!

[Schonyenko2]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You need to slow down a bit. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif[/img]

The equipment on the car now is practically irrelevant - anything can happen in 44 years. A big-block heater box proves nothing just like a big-block Chevy motor proves nothing. If there is any pedigree, you need to find it from people in its past.

Additionally, there is no such thing as a &quot;late&quot; 1970 car - it's either a '70 or a '71. Your VIN says 1971? Then there's your answer.

There's a lot of VERY knowledgable people here. Listen to their advice and follow through. Come back with evidence from your search and I'm sure the good people here will be able to help you some more. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>

Yes, and no. Don Yenko advertised the deuces as 701/2. When I went to IA. DMV in 71 to title my deuce, I told her that the ad said 701/2 so she titled it as a 71. Someday when I'm dead and gone future collectors can argue about it being a fake as there were no 71 deuces. :-)

It seems this gentleman may have an urban legend, &quot;week one&quot; BB transplant.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

'Slow down a bit' is good advice, you will not solve this in a day or two.

- Your car is a 1971 Nova, per the VIN, not a late '70 etc...
- There were no BB's in Novas in 1971, so you will need to determine when it was installed.
- I didn't read all of your posts because they are too difficult to segment, but you should obtain the casting date info from the engine that is in there now. If it's dated well after 1970, that's good info to know as it tells you how far back you need to research.
- The BB heater box is a common item to change when doing an engine swap, or sometimes just knocking 2 extra holes in the SB heater box cover, we need to see pics to determine how it was done.
- Check the radiator support for the larger opening, also the radiator hold down equipment - was that changed as well?
- Check the engine stands for the 1/2&quot; offset to the passenger side, especially if the car has p/s
- Check the trans crossmember for the BB version that also has 1/2&quot; offset