Fathers Lost Yenko Chevelle #358034 Butternut

[Charley Lillard]

You came here asking for help. Me and the owner offered to help. You passed because it is your journey. My statements are guarded because we are still not clear what your motives are. You wish it was a run of the mill Chevelle that was lost forever ? That wouldn't be any closure. You would just be wondering forever. I can assure you the owner is not concerned with losing the car. He was willing to help research the early years in order to find out and put this to bed one way or the other. There are probably a few here that will vouch for my word. At this point I think the owner will probably spend his own money to find out what happened but it looks like it will be done without your involvement. He is a private person and prefers to keep it that way.
P.S. The person in Ky is not a gentleman.
You also state you have not initiated any legal proceedings yet in earlier posts you stated you tried to apply for duplicate title and you once tried to report it stolen. Those look legal to me.
No hard feelings.

[69hurstSC]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
You also state you have not initiated any legal proceedings yet in earlier posts you stated you tried to apply for duplicate title and you once tried to report it stolen. Those look legal to me.
No hard feelings. </div></div>

A 9 year old kid picking up the phone and calling or pretending to call law enforcement is reporting it stolen? Come on Charley, you're better than that.

[Charley Lillard]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
You also state you have not initiated any legal proceedings yet in earlier posts you stated you tried to apply for duplicate title and you once tried to report it stolen. Those look legal to me.
No hard feelings. </div></div>

A 9 year old kid picking up the phone and calling or pretending to call law enforcement is reporting it stolen? Come on Charley, you're better than that. </div></div>

He said he started looking for the car when he was 9. He did not say he reported it stolen when he was 9.

[69hurstSC]

Is this the first time that the current owner will be attempting to track the history of this Yenko Chevelle?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">At this point I think the owner will probably spend his own money to find out what happened but it looks like it will be done without your involvement. He is a private person and prefers to keep it that way.

No hard feelings. </div></div>

[bkhpah]

It would seem that the current owner, and all of the past owner history is very clear, at least back for 25+ years not to mention original owner input. Also from what I read here, it would seem the current owner with Charlies help, are more than willing to also get to the bottom if this mystery. If I had that offer I would put my cards on the table and finish this once and for all. It would seem you have the most to gain here. I see no real reason for the current owner to even try and help you out here, yet the offer was made. The current owner, to the best of my knowledge owns, the car with proper documentation and a clear and free title in hand...BKH

[69hurstSC]

Asking for information from Chris and not divulging information from the current owner is more than enough reason for him not to take the offer. Chris has provided free photo's and history which will only add value to this Yenko Chevelle. For people to be chastising him for not &quot;taking the deal&quot; is asinine.If the current owner would provide even half as much information as opposed to what Chris has disclosed in relation to his father's ownership history than it would be a fair offer.

Instead all assertions seem to indicate that the current owner is circling the wagons. If the current owner is so confident in their ownership records than why the statement about the ownership history being attempted &quot;without your involvement&quot;? And I find it mindbogglingly strange that &quot;private&quot; owner of a 69 Yenko Chevelle is only now looking fully into the ownership history of such a prominent car. It's rather easy to assimilate that the reason this Chevelle has flown under the radar is because it has a dark history.

I've never met Chris, but as a younger man (like myself) in the collector car hobby, it can be a daunting task trying to communicate and converse with people who own elite american muscle cars. I've found that these people often don't have time for us younger collectors and enthusiasts. Chris should be commended for how he's handled this to date. He's brand new here and in every post he seems to be apologizing. No wonder there's so few of us 40 and under guys in the hobby. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bkhpah</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It would seem that the current owner, and all of the past owner history is very clear, at least back for 25+ years not to mention original owner input. Also from what I read here, it would seem the current owner with Charlies help, are more than willing to also get to the bottom if this mystery. If I had that offer I would put my cards on the table and finish this once and for all. It would seem you have the most to gain here. I see no real reason for the current owner to even try and help you out here, yet the offer was made. The current owner, to the best of my knowledge owns, the car with proper documentation and a clear and free title in hand...BKH </div></div>

[bkhpah]

Flying under the radar? Really, This car has been FEATURED in at least three musclecar magazines over the years, and has been at many public events. There is a folder of information about the car in the current owners hands. This doesn't sound to me like &quot;dark history&quot;. If the current owner is willing to get to the bottom of this, and has offered to, why is that asinine? I really doubt that claiming a Yenko Chevelle was in some way taken from someone would add any value...BKH

[69hurstSC]

I never noted that it having been taken from the family would add value. I noted that the pictures and history Chris is providing will add value. Full documented history always adds value to an automobile, this isn't rocket science.

Than how come this is the 1st adventure into documenting the history of this Chevelle by the current owner? And please, feel free to post the FEATURED articles. We'd love to read them and see how much information was disclosed. I'm thoroughly perplexed to read that a car that's been featured in 3 muscle car magazines has never been traced for ownership history. I'm not accusing the owner of hiding anything, but in this hobby and with this prominent of a car, usually the first thing we hobbyists do is try and track owner lineage.

Whether Law Enforcement becomes involved or not, the key to what happened to this car is in the paperwork exchange between the military and Chris's mom, and I think that's whats getting lost in this discussion. From what I've read here this car wasn't just left behind on the side of the road or in a junkyard.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bkhpah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Flying under the radar? Really, This car has been FEATURED in at least three musclecar magazines over the years, and has been at many public events. There is a folder of information about the car in the current owners hands. This doesn't sound to me like &quot;dark history&quot;. If the current owner is willing to get to the bottom of this, and has offered to, why is that asinine? I really doubt that claiming a Yenko Chevelle was in some way taken from someone would add any value...BKH </div></div>

[Charley Lillard]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is this the first time that the current owner will be attempting to track the history of this Yenko Chevelle?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">At this point I think the owner will probably spend his own money to find out what happened but it looks like it will be done without your involvement. He is a private person and prefers to keep it that way.

No hard feelings. </div></div> </div></div>
The current owner has done no owner searches because he already had it back quite a ways.