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[GTO_DON]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I personally think as long as the parts are period correct vintage, its still 'Day 2&quot; in my book. No clones about it! Seriously though, the only &quot;original&quot; Day 2 cars in my opinion were the Baldwin Motion cars. Anything else was delivered stock and the parts were installed after the fact so they're all clones.

If I bought a 3,000 mile survivor today, and then installed vintage NOS &quot;Day 2&quot; parts, would it then technically be considered genuine Day 2 since the car was never modded until that point in time? </div></div>No I dont believe so Matt...You have to remember these were times when you made the car your own with your personality all over it like writing names and phrases on the fenders and putting the performance parts you like the best ETC I don think sammy was trying to start anything but he remembers the good ole days and us old timers who was there still likes when a genuine Day 2 car is found in a barn or old garage and brings back the memories on how we streetraced and hung out thats all..I think its a nice testamint to those who want to replicate a time gone by but theres nothing like finding a real day 2 car that was beat the snot out of and ruled the streets in your hometown...Hope im not pissing anyone off but thats how i feel..

[Plowman]

Well said GTO Don.

[C1SS396]

So we have As Found restored to day 2/raced ? Which is one side of the fence that's cool .As found as survivor (except the mouse piss smell)That's cool (I will tell you i am not looking for a 30 year old mouse to replace the smell in my latest find )Then their is oem restored that is also cool .. So tell me what is the wrong why to enjoy and save these cars ?

&quot;Except my opinion and my pinion only to take a car with race history or history and put it back to stock &quot;
Take Big willy of the LA street racers Super birds or the Red Alert chevelle etc etc.Think these kids cared if or were their cars fell?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53T7zpI8C80

[MosportGreen66]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GTO_DON</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I personally think as long as the parts are period correct vintage, its still 'Day 2&quot; in my book. No clones about it! Seriously though, the only &quot;original&quot; Day 2 cars in my opinion were the Baldwin Motion cars. Anything else was delivered stock and the parts were installed after the fact so they're all clones.

If I bought a 3,000 mile survivor today, and then installed vintage NOS &quot;Day 2&quot; parts, would it then technically be considered genuine Day 2 since the car was never modded until that point in time? </div></div>No I dont believe so Matt...You have to remember these were times when you made the car your own with your personality all over it like writing names and phrases on the fenders and putting the performance parts you like the best ETC I don think sammy was trying to start anything but he remembers the good ole days and us old timers who was there still likes when a genuine Day 2 car is found in a barn or old garage and brings back the memories on how we streetraced and hung out thats all..I think its a nice testamint to those who want to replicate a time gone by but theres nothing like finding a real day 2 car that was beat the snot out of and ruled the streets in your hometown...Hope im not pissing anyone off but thats how i feel.. </div></div>

That's ridiculous Don. You're cutting down current generations and those yet to come who live and breath this stuff. The original day-2 cars are near impossible to find as is. Classifying good, honest cars turned into a &quot;day-2&quot; car today as clones because they were not such when new is asinine. I'm surprised more folk on this site who frequent this section of the forum are not offended.

[Salvatore]

Dan, these are just opinions. NOTHING wrong with the Day-2 themes of today. My Z is a an example of that. Its just a correct Day-2 clone in my opinion. Everything on my Z that is day-2 was put on by me. In that case my car is a Day-2 replica because I did the conversion 40 years after it was born. Again I will pick on Sam Griffith's car, My Z even with all the correct stuff, can't compete with a car like his or a Deuce like Schoenthaler's for a &quot;real Day-2&quot; title. How about the black Motion 69 camaro that we saw in Chicago a year or so ago. Another great example. They are truly Day-2 IMO. Dan, as always keep the opinions and responses coming. At least we all love the Day-2 theme and what it stands for.

[Tommy]

to quote Billy Crystal in Throw Mamma From the Train &quot;I have a enormous headache in my eye.&quot;

Real and fake day 2 cars???? Really ?


Tommy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/[/img]

[Hemicolt]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tommy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">to quote Billy Crystal in Throw Mamma From the Train &quot;I have a enormous headache in my eye.&quot;

Real and fake day 2 cars???? Really ?


Tommy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/[/img] </div></div>

All are welcome to come over to the Unaffiliated side..lol

[Igosplut]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hemicolt</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tommy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">to quote Billy Crystal in Throw Mamma From the Train &quot;I have a enormous headache in my eye.&quot;

Real and fake day 2 cars???? Really ?


Tommy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/[/img] </div></div>

All are welcome to come over to the Unaffiliated side..lol </div></div>

I'm with you..

My 66 Nova was a straight axle car built in the 70s. I kept it a straight axle because that's the way it was. Now it has many improvements that do not reflect the 70s (and people love to hang the &quot;Gasser&quot; label on it). It is what it is.

[GTO_DON]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MosportGreen66</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GTO_DON</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I personally think as long as the parts are period correct vintage, its still 'Day 2&quot; in my book. No clones about it! Seriously though, the only &quot;original&quot; Day 2 cars in my opinion were the Baldwin Motion cars. Anything else was delivered stock and the parts were installed after the fact so they're all clones.

If I bought a 3,000 mile survivor today, and then installed vintage NOS &quot;Day 2&quot; parts, would it then technically be considered genuine Day 2 since the car was never modded until that point in time? </div></div>No I dont believe so Matt...You have to remember these were times when you made the car your own with your personality all over it like writing names and phrases on the fenders and putting the performance parts you like the best ETC I don think sammy was trying to start anything but he remembers the good ole days and us old timers who was there still likes when a genuine Day 2 car is found in a barn or old garage and brings back the memories on how we streetraced and hung out thats all..I think its a nice testamint to those who want to replicate a time gone by but theres nothing like finding a real day 2 car that was beat the snot out of and ruled the streets in your hometown...Hope im not pissing anyone off but thats how i feel.. </div></div>

That's ridiculous Don. You're cutting down current generations and those yet to come who live and breath this stuff. The original day-2 cars are near impossible to find as is. Classifying good, honest cars turned into a &quot;day-2&quot; car today as clones because they were not such when new is asinine. I'm surprised more folk on this site who frequent this section of the forum are not offended. </div></div>
A replica is still a replica Dan Try not to be offended. I stand by my opinion...You should concentrate on restoring your car instead of making it a day 2 car it never was anyway. youll like it better in the long run.

[MosportGreen66]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A replica is still a replica Dan Try not to be offended. I stand by my opinion...You should concentrate on restoring your car instead of making it a day 2 car it never was anyway. youll like it better in the long run. </div></div>

Why? For you to then tell me its just an average Z with a cookie cutter restoration? You're point conflicts itself in and out. I don't want to hear this romanticized recount of how things were in the past. It is now 2013. I own a completely documented 1969 Z28 with all born with original components. I have modified as I would have in 1969 using period correct parts bought from your e-buddies. I chuckle at your ignorance in calling my car a replica, clone, copy, or any other synonym indicating reproduction. Still offended. I still think you're full of...